Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-23-2015, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

My clutch fluid looks like that at every oil change just about. I remove the old fluid from the MC and do quick gravity bleed on the system every 5-10k miles. I am running Dot4 also. In the summer I have to do it more often due to the heat of the cats. Nissan didn't rap the little metal line down at the bottom. It has some kind of rubber protector on it but it does not cover it all and does nothing for the heat.

Has anyone noticed a positive difference when using Nissan GTR BRAKE fluid? Or is it the same as any DOT 4

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BamBamZ · 06-24-2015, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Has anyone noticed a positive difference when using Nissan GTR BRAKE fluid? Or is it the same as any DOT 4

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As I went through this entire thread making my list, Several people had good results by switching the fluid but then there are still quite a few that still had CSC failure further down the road. It seems like it's just a band aid.

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-24-2015, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBamZ

As I went through this entire thread making my list, Several people had good results by switching the fluid but then there are still quite a few that still had CSC failure further down the road. It seems like it's just a band aid.

I'm having a ZSpeed HD CSC installed as well as new CMC, with insulated CLUTCH line ; I was thinking of using the GTR BRAKE Fluid from now on . Do you thats a good idea or should I use a different brand of fluid?

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BamBamZ · 06-24-2015, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

I'm having a ZSpeed HD CSC installed as well as new CMC, with insulated CLUTCH line ; I was thinking of using the GTR BRAKE Fluid from now on . Do you thats a good idea or should I use a different brand of fluid?

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I don't recall anyone asking that question... But I believe Joe@Zspeed will help you out, He's chimed in on this thread several times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auspicious_on

Dude this is amazing work!

Sucks that it is BS about a nissan part though

Thank ya... Yeah it is, I thought there would be more. But there probably is that I didn't see or didn't chime in yet.

Joe@ZSpeed · 06-24-2015, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

I'm having a ZSpeed HD CSC installed as well as new CMC, with insulated CLUTCH line ; I was thinking of using the GTR BRAKE Fluid from now on . Do you thats a good idea or should I use a different brand of fluid?

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Won't hurt anything to use the GTR fluid, We have been using Motul RBF-600 with good results also.

BamBamZ · 06-24-2015, 08:46 AM

Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - ????
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 1,900
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ????
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465

That took a long *** time to compile...

for EVERYONE that has experienced or even are concerned for yours to go out give Nissan North America a ring and tell the rep you're issues or concerns. 1-800-NISSAN-1

Blighter · 06-24-2015, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBamZ

Name - Year - Mileage

....
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ????
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465

That took a long *** time to compile...

for EVERYONE that has experienced or even are concerned for yours to go out give Nissan North America a ring and tell the rep you're issues or concerns. 1-800-NISSAN-1

Dude this is amazing work!

Sucks that it is BS about a nissan part though

MagmaRed370z · 06-24-2015, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBamZ

Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - ????
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 1,900
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ????
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465

That took a long *** time to compile...

for EVERYONE that has experienced or even are concerned for yours to go out give Nissan North America a ring and tell the rep you're issues or concerns. 1-800-NISSAN-1

That is what I did [I am just concerned now it hasn't failed yet (knock on wood)] Count me in in that list.

pbs370z · 06-24-2015, 01:15 PM

I filed my CSC Failure complaint here: (easy, only took about 5 mins)

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml Conf. No. (ODI) 10726352

I know this has been said before, but if there's any chance of forcing Nissan to take responsibility for this problem then a lot of us are going to have to complain where it could do some good.

My symptoms were: Clutch pedal occasionally sticking to floor on a warm day with engine hot and running hard. It never did leak fluid and I could pop the clutch pedal back up easily with my toe. It would work normally after it cooled a bit.

Fix: Installed the Zspeed HD CSC improved slave cylinder (along with a whole new clutch 'n flywheel).

P.S. Thanks BamBam !

Vbp6US · 06-24-2015, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbs370z

I filed my CSC Failure complaint here: (easy, only took about 5 mins)

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml

P.S. Thanks BamBam !

Done. Everyone in this thread right now should fill one out. Thanks!

MagmaRed370z · 06-24-2015, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vbp6US

Done. Everyone in this thread right now should fill one out. Thanks!

I filled out the complaint. This takes 3 minutes. Please everybody do this and lets make NISSAN put a recall about this!

Confirmation number (ODI Number) is: 10730197

RumbleFish · 06-24-2015, 10:45 AM

You can add me to that list. Had mine go out in my 2010 Sport @ approx. 29K

Dealer put in the GTR fluid and that has held up for the last 6K or so.

eastwest2300 · 06-24-2015, 11:33 AM

very nice work BamBamz

eastwest2300 · 06-24-2015, 11:35 AM

Any of you guys thought about going to your local news affiliate? I mean this is pretty serious, and here you have Nissan tap dancing, I say the hell with calling 1800 Nissan, let the news MAKE them do something about it.. Like chevrolet, and the air bag recall.

Zbrah · 06-24-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Any of you guys thought about going to your local news affiliate? I mean this is pretty serious, and here you have Nissan tap dancing, I say the hell with calling 1800 Nissan, let the news MAKE them do something about it.. Like chevrolet, and the air bag recall.

Great ide! We need to find someone with direct contact.

06-24-2015, 01:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
pbs370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Near Portland, OR Posts: 92 Drives: '10 370Z, Sport Pkg Rep Power: 3370	370Z Clutch Slave Cylinder Complaint to NHTSA I filed my CSC Failure complaint here: (easy, only took about 5 mins) https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml Conf. No. (ODI) 10726352 I know this has been said before, but if there's any chance of forcing Nissan to take responsibility for this problem then a lot of us are going to have to complain where it could do some good. My symptoms were: Clutch pedal occasionally sticking to floor on a warm day with engine hot and running hard. It never did leak fluid and I could pop the clutch pedal back up easily with my toe. It would work normally after it cooled a bit. Fix: Installed the Zspeed HD CSC improved slave cylinder (along with a whole new clutch 'n flywheel). P.S. Thanks BamBam ! __________________ '10 Z, Sport Pkg 6 MT, Stillen Brake Cooler, Z1 Oil Cooler w/Setrab 25 row/Mocal T-stat, Southbend Clutch w/light wt Flywheel. Last edited by pbs370z; 06-24-2015 at 05:52 PM.

06-24-2015, 10:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
RumbleFish A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Los Feliz, Ca. Posts: 1,212 Drives: '10-Sport-M6 Rep Power: 8240	You can add me to that list. Had mine go out in my 2010 Sport @ approx. 29K Dealer put in the GTR fluid and that has held up for the last 6K or so. __________________ How far, this...Utopia? F.I. CBE V2/Stillen G3 CAI/GTM 25R OC/EcuTek tune (Specialty Z)/ KW V3's/Stillen Sway bars/SPC rear camber kit/Z1 FUCA/Mich. PSS4S 255/35-295/30

06-24-2015, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,019 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684552	very nice work BamBamz __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

06-24-2015, 11:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,019 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684552	Any of you guys thought about going to your local news affiliate? I mean this is pretty serious, and here you have Nissan tap dancing, I say the hell with calling 1800 Nissan, let the news MAKE them do something about it.. Like chevrolet, and the air bag recall. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 11	Name - Year - Mileage 1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158 2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605 3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000 4: Zeto - 2009 - ????? 5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500 6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412 7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ???? 8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500 9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000 10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140 11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000 12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600 13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000 14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ???? 15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000 16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300 17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000 18: Bking - ???? - ???? 19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000 20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000 21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200 22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000 23: L8N8 - 2011 - ???? 24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000 25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000 26: windex - ???? - ???? 27: Neptune - 2009 - ???? 28: afbunn - 2009 - ???? 29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000 30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500 31: lhinojos - 2012 - ???? 32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000 33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200 34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000 35: Simota1 - ???? - ???? 36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000 37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers) 38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000 39: luigi90210 - 2011 - ???? 40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000 41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ???? 42: Zensation - ???? - ???? 43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ???? 44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000 45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 again 46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000 47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000 48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000 49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000 50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500 51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000 52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900 53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 3rd time 54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000 55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 4th time 56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243 57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ???? 58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000 59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000 60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) 2nd time 61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 4th time 62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000 63: radensb - 2009 - ???? 64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ???? 65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 2nd time 66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers) 67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000 68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ???? 69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ???? 70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000 71: UXI - 2015 - 1,900 72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700 73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000 74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000 75: Agent_K - 2013 - ???? 76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ???? 77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075 78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000 79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465 That took a long * time to compile... for EVERYONE** that has experienced or even are concerned for yours to go out give Nissan North America a ring and tell the rep you're issues or concerns. 1-800-NISSAN-1