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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 I should be picking up my Z tomorrow night from AAM.. (hopefully). They've had it since Friday, as soon as the shop opened. That's good news!

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Old 07-26-2015, 09:22 PM   #1096 (permalink)
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I should be picking up my Z tomorrow night from AAM.. (hopefully). They've had it since Friday, as soon as the shop opened.
That's good news! Did you go for transmission flush & MOTUL Gear Oil also?

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I had a clutch failure at the end of a track day this past week. The clutch pedal literally dropped to the floor. I was stuck for 10 minutes, after which the pedal had lifted about an inch off the floor, allowing me to get in gear and make my way back to my spot in the paddock. After 20 minutes with the engine off, the clutch returned to normal. Fluid level was normal, so I suspect the clutch fluid had boiled after a long day on the track. I just put in an order for an insulated clutch line from ZSpeed...anyone have any experience with this line? I'll also replace the clutch fluid with Motul.
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Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - 64,000
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465
80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000
81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200
82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000
83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000
84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000
85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user)
86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000
87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000
88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:38 AM   #1099 (permalink)
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I had a clutch failure at the end of a track day this past week. The clutch pedal literally dropped to the floor. I was stuck for 10 minutes, after which the pedal had lifted about an inch off the floor, allowing me to get in gear and make my way back to my spot in the paddock. After 20 minutes with the engine off, the clutch returned to normal. Fluid level was normal, so I suspect the clutch fluid had boiled after a long day on the track. I just put in an order for an insulated clutch line from ZSpeed...anyone have any experience with this line? I'll also replace the clutch fluid with Motul.
I am using the insulated line from ZSpeed. I've had it along with new HD CSC, CMC, ACT Clutch Kit, & new FLYWHEEL for about 2 weeks now. Completed 500 mile break-in of new clutch kit and so far have had no problems. I'm using GTR Fluid for clutch hydraulics & MOTUL Gear Fluid in transmission. It should be noted that I did not track or push it to the limits during break-in period. I'll start doing that in the upcoming weeks and post results.

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Updated forum list

Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ????
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465
80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000
81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200
82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000
83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000
84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000
85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user)
86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000
87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000
88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000
UPDATE - KoolKarmaJoe - this is 2nd time CSC was replaced. Previous Z owner replaced it once; then I replaced it a 2nd time with a HD CSC at 64,000 miles. (Previous owner replaced it with the same OEM CSC)

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Old 07-27-2015, 05:48 AM   #1101 (permalink)
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UPDATE - KoolKarmaJoe - this is 2nd time CSC was replaced. Previous Z owner replaced it once; then I replaced it a 2nd time with a HD CSC at 64,000 miles. (Previous owner replaced it with the same OEM CSC)

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Fixed my post... I wouldn't be surprised if mine is on it's 2nd CSC either.

This is my Z this guy is talking about after all

[CA] Trying to buy a 370z : Bad experience with VIN JN1AZ44E59M402001

I knew of the thread before I pulled the trigger (I googled the vin), The transmission was replaced under warranty 5 years (15k miles) before I bought it...
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That's good news! Did you go for transmission flush & MOTUL Gear Oil also?

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I would think they did the transmission flush, as they did do the CSC which required them opening up the transmission. At this point Im not sure, this is why I cant stand handing my car over to shops. (you just never know)
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I would think they did the transmission flush, as they did do the CSC which required them opening up the transmission. At this point Im not sure, this is why I cant stand handing my car over to shops. (you just never know)
It doesn't require opening up the transmission... When mine was done, they didn't drain the oil. Just unbolted and pulled it down. You can always ask your mechanic. My friend that did mine just did what was required and covered under warranty... I ended up bringing it back literally 2k miles later for the 30K service.
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Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - 64,000
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465
80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000
81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200
82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000
83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000
84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000
85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user)
86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000
87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000
88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000
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Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - 64,000
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465
80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000
81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200
82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000
83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000
84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000
85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user)
86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000
87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000
88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000
89: Zmanelite - 2012 - 21,000
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I would think they did the transmission flush, as they did do the CSC which required them opening up the transmission. At this point Im not sure, this is why I cant stand handing my car over to shops. (you just never know)
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I am using the insulated line from ZSpeed. I've had it along with new HD CSC, CMC, ACT Clutch Kit, & new FLYWHEEL for about 2 weeks now. Completed 500 mile break-in of new clutch kit and so far have had no problems. I'm using GTR Fluid for clutch hydraulics & MOTUL Gear Fluid in transmission. It should be noted that I did not track or push it to the limits during break-in period. I'll start doing that in the upcoming weeks and post results.
Interesting, I'm wondering if I should bite the bullet and replace the CSC/CMC as well. I don't have any problems with the clutch aside from the heat issue. Is there any difference in feel? I suppose it's hard to say because you also replaced the flywheel.

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Interesting, I'm wondering if I should bite the bullet and replace the CSC/CMC as well. I don't have any problems with the clutch aside from the heat issue. Is there any difference in feel? I suppose it's hard to say because you also replaced the flywheel.

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Mine felt fine up until it just let go , no real warning or anything
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Interesting, I'm wondering if I should bite the bullet and replace the CSC/CMC as well. I don't have any problems with the clutch aside from the heat issue. Is there any difference in feel? I suppose it's hard to say because you also replaced the flywheel.

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Big difference in the feel of the clutch with the lighter flywheel. Rev's much faster, quicker shifts that are much more smoother. Downshifting I've found it better to "Heel / Toe" (Brake & Rev).

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