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Old 06-01-2015, 02:32 PM   #571 (permalink)
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So your entire clutch assembly quote has gone from $1600 to $3000? That doesn't sound right

For comparison, I am getting an entirely new 6MT transmission assembly plus install for about $3K. There's about $700 of labor, so let's use that number since it's basically the same work. A nice street clutch and flywheel should only run you $800 or so. CMC is about $100. CSC is gonna be $400ish for aftermarket solution. That means you should be around $2000 out the door give or take a few hundred depending on the regional shop rates. But not an extra $1K
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I talked to the shop manager on Saturday, and the out-the-door estimate is now $3000. *sigh* (That's all I have for this repair, so let's hope there are no complications once the work starts!!) He assured me that the kit is comprehensive, heavy duty, and the same kind of clutch I currently have, and he said he'd pay for 2-day shipping. He's supposed to order it today and call me to (a) confirm the expected delivery date and (b) tell me the warranty info. If I still haven't heard anything by 2pm I'll call them.
I'd put a hold on that order. You can piece together each item from our vendors and put a chunk of that money back in your pockets. $3,000 is a little too much IMO.
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$1,500 for a complete South Bend Stage 2 daily kit from Zspeed. Tack on labor around $6-700 you should be out just barely over $2K!
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$1,500 for a complete South Bend Stage 2 daily kit from Zspeed. Tack on labor around $6-700 you should be out just barely over $2K!
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I'm also a victim of clutch failure. In my case it was the CMC that began to leak. Pedal is to the floor, and no hope of driving it to repair. I've decided to also go ahead and have the CSC replaced too. I'm awaiting a quote from AAM Competition, and if it doesn't hurt my wallet too much I may go ahead a upgrade to a new ACT Clutch kit as well.

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How many miles do you have on the car?
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I'm also a victim of clutch failure. In my case it was the CMC that began to leak. Pedal is to the floor, and no hope of driving it to repair. I've decided to also go ahead and have the CSC replaced too. I'm awaiting a quote from AAM Competition, and if it doesn't hurt my wallet too much I may go ahead a upgrade to a new ACT Clutch kit as well.
I did the exact same thing as you - my CMC failed first and I went ahead and put in the Z1 kit at the same time. You are getting an aftermarket CSC solution, right? It's definitely a good idea to replace the CSC because the failed CMC can let dirt into the system and will eventually foul up the CSC (a failed CSC can foul up the CMC as well). But there's no way I bother dropping the transmission just to put another OEM CSC in there.
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I did the exact same thing as you - my CMC failed first and I went ahead and put in the Z1 kit at the same time. You are getting an aftermarket CSC solution, right? It's definitely a good idea to replace the CSC because the failed CMC can let dirt into the system and will eventually foul up the CSC (a failed CSC can foul up the CMC as well). But there's no way I bother dropping the transmission just to put another OEM CSC in there.
Yes I'm definitely going for a HD Aftermarket CSC too. I'm anxiously waiting to hear back from AAM Competition. I've always had great service from them & they are very helpful.
I'm not sure if CMC had failed before with previous owner. But I do have documentation that original owner replaced CSC when car had 52363 miles. Currently car has roughly 64,000 miles. It's going to be gut wrenching to see my Z get taken away for repairs by a Rollback Tow Truck!
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Well, the GTR fluid trick didn't work. My clutch pedal went to the floor again and stuck. I had to flick it back up with my toe. I contacted the service manager...nothing back from him yet.
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Maybe I am getting screwed (paying the standard "I don't know much about cars" premium), but I made the best decision I could. :shrugs: I'm living with it, plus it's too late for any changes now. Assuming the kit gets delivered tomorrow I'll have my car back NLT Thursday, and at this point that's all I care about.

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So your entire clutch assembly quote has gone from $1600 to $3000? That doesn't sound right
Because it's not: if you go back and read again, the out-the-door quote went from $2500 to $3000. The kit quote went from $1600 to $1800, because apparently the first one wasn't comprehensive (whatever). More parts = more labor, so an additional $500 all told. Depressing, but it didn't feel outrageous.

The guy also said this kit is my only option if I want the car done any time soon: he said everywhere else they called, the parts were out of stock until mid-June.

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Well, the GTR fluid trick didn't work. My clutch pedal went to the floor again and stuck. I had to flick it back up with my toe. I contacted the service manager...nothing back from him yet.
Oh dude, I'm sorry.
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Well, the GTR fluid trick didn't work. My clutch pedal went to the floor again and stuck. I had to flick it back up with my toe. I contacted the service manager...nothing back from him yet.
Best of luck bro. i dont know why these service techs act like this problem is some sorta anomaly.. like this issue never ever happens.
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Well, the GTR fluid trick didn't work. My clutch pedal went to the floor again and stuck. I had to flick it back up with my toe. I contacted the service manager...nothing back from him yet.
Sorry to hear man. It's probably better that it didn't work so now you'll get to get the problem actually fixed rather than a band-aid over it.

I believe dealers are required to swap out the fluid first to see if that works. I've never actually read about anyone having the fluid swap alone solve the issue.
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Best of luck bro. i dont know why these service techs act like this problem is some sorta anomaly.. like this issue never ever happens.
Every dealer should have a supply of spares on hand. At least 2-3 per dealership parts dept for as long as they're going to keep the janky part without a better engineered replacement.
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