clutch sticking after aggressive driving

The Arp · 09-13-2010, 06:14 PM

I vote you boiled clutch fluid. I did it at buttonwillow, clutch went to the floor and stayed there. It was about 100 degrees out and me and a friend were running the car in back to back sessions. Pulled off the track let things cool down. Pumped it a few times and clutch came back. When I got home I changed to high temp fluid and I noticed the clutch line gets fairly close to the exhaust (I have hfc's which might have contributed to the problem). It even has a little silver sweater on it to protect it from the heat. Other folks may have had clutch failures but if your pedal came back or was fixed with a bleed you prolly just got it too hot.

Viera · 12-09-2010, 03:14 PM

I have the same problem and I just took my Z to a dealership. They charged me $90 just to CHECK the clutch. The guy came back and said I need a new clutch which would be about $1700-$2000 for parts and labor. Obviously I am not getting that job done there. I also do not know if I just need new clutch fluid changed or actually need a new clutch, and I do not want to go to another dealership and pay another hefty fine. What to do?

6mtg37s · 12-18-2010, 07:12 PM

Doesnt warranty cover it? ^

toner123 · 12-18-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 6mtg37s

Doesnt warranty cover it? ^

Clutch is considered a wear and tear item
Frank

ChrisSlicks · 12-18-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123

Clutch is considered a wear and tear item
Frank

It is, but if it fails in a short period of time they may replace it under warranty at their discretion.

daisuke149 · 12-18-2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viera

I have the same problem and I just took my Z to a dealership. They charged me $90 just to CHECK the clutch. The guy came back and said I need a new clutch which would be about $1700-$2000 for parts and labor. Obviously I am not getting that job done there. I also do not know if I just need new clutch fluid changed or actually need a new clutch, and I do not want to go to another dealership and pay another hefty fine. What to do?

hows your clutch feeling now btw?

Viera · 12-18-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

hows your clutch feeling now btw?

dude it is absolutely awesome now. and i hope it stays that way

how was the installation on your part? i need a drop bad!!!

didymus · 12-19-2010, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viera

I have the same problem and I just took my Z to a dealership. They charged me $90 just to CHECK the clutch. The guy came back and said I need a new clutch which would be about $1700-$2000 for parts and labor. Obviously I am not getting that job done there. I also do not know if I just need new clutch fluid changed or actually need a new clutch, and I do not want to go to another dealership and pay another hefty fine. What to do?

How many miles? I would think that should be under warranty.

1slow370 · 12-19-2010, 10:59 AM

the slave cylinder in our cars has a very small fluid port that is meant to dampen the clutch engagement, this leads to a sluggish feeling clutch when shifting quickly like it's slipping for the first half second on release, F-bodies have the same problem with their CSC's and when the port becomes fouled the fluid doesn't move very well and can cause the clutch to be stuck to the floor.

daisuke149 · 12-19-2010, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viera

dude it is absolutely awesome now. and i hope it stays that way

how was the installation on your part? i need a drop bad!!!

All the suspension went in great. Guys at z1 did awesome and fast.

The car feels soooo flat and awesome. When i get my new wheels ima get it fully setup and then its gonna be amazing.

Lemme know about your clutch and thr guys at z1. I think they are looking into the issue about csc's.

dalanamorse · 12-29-2010, 01:59 PM

My clutch pedal had been sticking at random times for over a year. The problem was so sporadic and the dealership was 30 minutes away so the sticking pedal problem would stop sticking by the time I could take it in and show them the problem.

About a month or two ago, I took it to Grubbs Infiniti in Euless, Texas, for the airbag recall and mentioned the sticking clutch pedal to them. Of course, they were unable to replicate the problem so they were not able to fix it and sent me on my way.

On December 9, 2010, I took it in again because I could smell that awful burning clutch smell. The dealer wanted me to pay $1,450.00 for the repairs. I have an extended warranty on the vehicle but normal wear and tear is not covered. That is understandable but it still was not good enough for me. I knew that the sticking clutch pedal was causing wear and tear that was BEYOND normal on my car – especially since it had been doing it for over a year.

By accident, I stumbled across this forum and MULTIPLE other forums of people have the EXACT same issue with their G35’s. I also found MULTIPLE forums of Nissan 350 owners with the EXACT same problem – after all it is essentially the same car. I was shocked and appalled that this has not become a recall issue when it is a matter of consumer safety. I think that this issue is bigger than any of us or Infiniti/Nissan realizes. This is a widespread problem they are avoiding.

Even more shocking and appalling is the lack of concern for my safety that I received from both Grubbs Infiniti and Infiniti Consumer Affairs. Their complete unwillingness to make the needed repairs and cover all or part of the costs and STOP putting my life in jeopardy every time I drive the vehicle is asinine.

Infiniti/Nissan’s defective sticking clutch pedal IS A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN and does cause premature wear on other clutch parts. Therefore, Infiniti/Nissan should:

• Issue a recall on this sticking pedal IMMEDIATELY. People’s lives are at risk! This is no different than the sticking accelerator problem that Toyota had but they want to sweep it under the rug. DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THEY WILL WAKE UP?
• If they aren’t going to recall the sticking clutch pedal, then they need to cover the repairs to fix the sticking clutch pedal and any repairs from the unnecessary wear that the sticking clutch pedal caused.

If you have tried to work with the dealership or Infiniti/Nissan to get them to do just those very things and your attempts failed, here is what I suggest you do, as suggested to me by a consumer attorney:

• File a complaint, in writing, over the phone or online with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) by going to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
• File a complaint with the Attorney General – Consumer Protection Division in your area. You can find a list by state by going here: NAAG | Current Attorneys General
• Write your congressman or congress-woman. You can find yours by going to https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml. The last thing Infiniti/Nissan wants is a criminal investigation (much like Toyota’s) into the company's safety problems and lack of concern for their customers.
• Contact a public defender at your local news station. Almost all of us have them now. You may not get a call back or response from this but I am willing to bet that if we all do this, one of them will step up the plate and broadcast this problem. And if you know how the news works, when one reports it, they ALL report it. News broadcasts will bring more people forward with the same problem and will provide us Infiniti/Nissan owners with some strength in numbers.

Having lived this, I hope that my tips and pointers help.

In addition, if any of you are in Texas and would like to become part of a group lawsuit against Infiniti/Nissan to offset some of the attorney fees, please email me at dalanamorse@gmail.com

United we stand… Let’s come together and MAKE Infiniti/Nissan do the right thing since they obviously aren’t going to do it on their own.

1slow370 · 12-30-2010, 04:43 AM

trouble with the lawsuit idea is that i think you would have to prove not only damages at your expense, but that it would also be a real saftey risk(to my knowledge it hasn't caused a crash yet), and possibly some form of negligence on nissan or infiniti's part. Reasons it doesn't really effect safety are that if your clutch gets stuck in on say the highway and you have to stop, you can still stop perfectly fine, the engine will actually help brake the car, your breaks will work fine, and even if the throttle is jammed open, pushing the brake pedal in on any nissan or infiniti will shut the engine off thanks to the safety interlock feature (which also makes a real brakestand burnout impossible).

Yes it sucks balls on nissans part that it happens but the real percentage of failures is actually fairly normal hell for even one percent of cars to be effected by this +500 07-10 Z's and G's would have to have their csc fail. Recall is something like 2-3% for non safety issues, and they don't count cars that have had modifications that could have resulted in the failure so all the guys that have had their csc's fail thanks to a different clutch don't count.

Viera · 12-30-2010, 12:45 PM

Stuck clutch pedal solution: Bleed clutch fluid with Motul RBF 600 and replace stock clutch line with a SS clutch line. Voila~ problem fixed.

zero · 12-30-2010, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viera

Stuck clutch pedal solution: Bleed clutch fluid with Motul RBF 600 and replace stock clutch line with a SS clutch line. Voila~ problem fixed.

any suggestion on who is making ss clutch lines?

daisuke149 · 12-30-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero

any suggestion on who is making ss clutch lines?

Z1 Motorsports 370z/G37 SS Clutch Line NOW AVAILABLE!

thats the one he has.

Ive said it in other threads about the clutch's as well. This line really helps with the pedal feel as well.

12-19-2010, 10:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	the slave cylinder in our cars has a very small fluid port that is meant to dampen the clutch engagement, this leads to a sluggish feeling clutch when shifting quickly like it's slipping for the first half second on release, F-bodies have the same problem with their CSC's and when the port becomes fouled the fluid doesn't move very well and can cause the clutch to be stuck to the floor. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

12-29-2010, 01:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
dalanamorse Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3 Drives: 2006 Infiniti G35 Rep Power: 14	No Help From Infiniti/Nissan with Sticking Clutch Pedal - WHAT YOU SHOULD DO My clutch pedal had been sticking at random times for over a year. The problem was so sporadic and the dealership was 30 minutes away so the sticking pedal problem would stop sticking by the time I could take it in and show them the problem. About a month or two ago, I took it to Grubbs Infiniti in Euless, Texas, for the airbag recall and mentioned the sticking clutch pedal to them. Of course, they were unable to replicate the problem so they were not able to fix it and sent me on my way. On December 9, 2010, I took it in again because I could smell that awful burning clutch smell. The dealer wanted me to pay $1,450.00 for the repairs. I have an extended warranty on the vehicle but normal wear and tear is not covered. That is understandable but it still was not good enough for me. I knew that the sticking clutch pedal was causing wear and tear that was BEYOND normal on my car – especially since it had been doing it for over a year. By accident, I stumbled across this forum and MULTIPLE other forums of people have the EXACT same issue with their G35’s. I also found MULTIPLE forums of Nissan 350 owners with the EXACT same problem – after all it is essentially the same car. I was shocked and appalled that this has not become a recall issue when it is a matter of consumer safety. I think that this issue is bigger than any of us or Infiniti/Nissan realizes. This is a widespread problem they are avoiding. Even more shocking and appalling is the lack of concern for my safety that I received from both Grubbs Infiniti and Infiniti Consumer Affairs. Their complete unwillingness to make the needed repairs and cover all or part of the costs and STOP putting my life in jeopardy every time I drive the vehicle is asinine. Infiniti/Nissan’s defective sticking clutch pedal IS A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN and does cause premature wear on other clutch parts. Therefore, Infiniti/Nissan should: • Issue a recall on this sticking pedal IMMEDIATELY. People’s lives are at risk! This is no different than the sticking accelerator problem that Toyota had but they want to sweep it under the rug. DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THEY WILL WAKE UP? • If they aren’t going to recall the sticking clutch pedal, then they need to cover the repairs to fix the sticking clutch pedal and any repairs from the unnecessary wear that the sticking clutch pedal caused. If you have tried to work with the dealership or Infiniti/Nissan to get them to do just those very things and your attempts failed, here is what I suggest you do, as suggested to me by a consumer attorney: • File a complaint, in writing, over the phone or online with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) by going to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm • File a complaint with the Attorney General – Consumer Protection Division in your area. You can find a list by state by going here: NAAG \| Current Attorneys General • Write your congressman or congress-woman. You can find yours by going to https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml. The last thing Infiniti/Nissan wants is a criminal investigation (much like Toyota’s) into the company's safety problems and lack of concern for their customers. • Contact a public defender at your local news station. Almost all of us have them now. You may not get a call back or response from this but I am willing to bet that if we all do this, one of them will step up the plate and broadcast this problem. And if you know how the news works, when one reports it, they ALL report it. News broadcasts will bring more people forward with the same problem and will provide us Infiniti/Nissan owners with some strength in numbers. Having lived this, I hope that my tips and pointers help. In addition, if any of you are in Texas and would like to become part of a group lawsuit against Infiniti/Nissan to offset some of the attorney fees, please email me at dalanamorse@gmail.com United we stand… Let’s come together and MAKE Infiniti/Nissan do the right thing since they obviously aren’t going to do it on their own.

12-30-2010, 04:43 AM	#27 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	trouble with the lawsuit idea is that i think you would have to prove not only damages at your expense, but that it would also be a real saftey risk(to my knowledge it hasn't caused a crash yet), and possibly some form of negligence on nissan or infiniti's part. Reasons it doesn't really effect safety are that if your clutch gets stuck in on say the highway and you have to stop, you can still stop perfectly fine, the engine will actually help brake the car, your breaks will work fine, and even if the throttle is jammed open, pushing the brake pedal in on any nissan or infiniti will shut the engine off thanks to the safety interlock feature (which also makes a real brakestand burnout impossible). Yes it sucks balls on nissans part that it happens but the real percentage of failures is actually fairly normal hell for even one percent of cars to be effected by this +500 07-10 Z's and G's would have to have their csc fail. Recall is something like 2-3% for non safety issues, and they don't count cars that have had modifications that could have resulted in the failure so all the guys that have had their csc's fail thanks to a different clutch don't count. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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09-13-2010, 06:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
The Arp Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Simi Valley Posts: 38 Drives: 2009 370z white m6 Rep Power: 16	I vote you boiled clutch fluid. I did it at buttonwillow, clutch went to the floor and stayed there. It was about 100 degrees out and me and a friend were running the car in back to back sessions. Pulled off the track let things cool down. Pumped it a few times and clutch came back. When I got home I changed to high temp fluid and I noticed the clutch line gets fairly close to the exhaust (I have hfc's which might have contributed to the problem). It even has a little silver sweater on it to protect it from the heat. Other folks may have had clutch failures but if your pedal came back or was fixed with a bleed you prolly just got it too hot.

12-09-2010, 03:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	I have the same problem and I just took my Z to a dealership. They charged me $90 just to CHECK the clutch. The guy came back and said I need a new clutch which would be about $1700-$2000 for parts and labor. Obviously I am not getting that job done there. I also do not know if I just need new clutch fluid changed or actually need a new clutch, and I do not want to go to another dealership and pay another hefty fine. What to do?

12-18-2010, 07:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
6mtg37s Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 102 Drives: 10 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	Doesnt warranty cover it? ^

12-30-2010, 12:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	Stuck clutch pedal solution: Bleed clutch fluid with Motul RBF 600 and replace stock clutch line with a SS clutch line. Voila~ problem fixed.