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JayYoon 08-24-2010 03:48 PM

1st Gear when turning your car off?
 
Okay... So the other I took my car in because I had some minor audio problems with the car...
Thankfully there was no problems to start off with...

So i get into my car... I press the clutch and start the car... And usually I start the car and put my iphone in to setup the music... But right when I start the car and let of the clutch... The car made the biggest jerk ever and just shut down... I WAS LIKE WTF JUST HAPPENED?!??!?!?!?!?!?! and i looked and it was in first gear. The technician(to me an assbag, lol excuse my language ^_^;;) left it in first...

Now I have seen lot of people doing this...
Is there any benefits to this?

Also when you leave it in first... do u put ur gear in first and turn ur car off? or turn your car off and put it in first?

Jeffblue 08-24-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 692217)
Also when you leave it in first... do u put ur gear in first and turn ur car off? or turn your car off and put it in first?

Doesn't matter which you do. You can put it in gear, keep your foot on the clutch and turn the car off. or turn the car off, then clutch and put it in gear.

There is a benefit to parking in gear. If you are parked on an incline, front of the car uphill, it would be beneficial to put the car in first to prevent rolling backwards. If you are parked on a decline, front of the car downhill, it would be beneficial to put the car in reverse when you park to prevent from rolling forwards. As far as the technicians fault, it really isn't. I, for one, 90% dont park in gear, because i don't usually park on an incline. i put it in gear if its a moderately steep incline. get in the habbit of making sure your car is not in gear before letting out the clutch which you start your car. Just like you would at a traffic light. you dont need to stare at the guage cluster very long to see the 1 or the R, and all you really have to do is wiggle the stick to see if its in Neutral. don't worry about it though. you just stalled your car, thats all.... but its your fault. :tup:

KusoSama 08-24-2010 04:10 PM

Just don't do this if you have a turbo with a turbo timer. :tup:

JayYoon 08-24-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 692230)
Doesn't matter which you do. You can put it in gear, keep your foot on the clutch and turn the car off. or turn the car off, then clutch and put it in gear.

There is a benefit to parking in gear. If you are parked on an incline, front of the car uphill, it would be beneficial to put the car in first to prevent rolling backwards. If you are parked on a decline, front of the car downhill, it would be beneficial to put the car in reverse when you park to prevent from rolling forwards. As far as the technicians fault, it really isn't. I, for one, 90% dont park in gear, because i don't usually park on an incline. i put it in gear if its a moderately steep incline. get in the habbit of making sure your car is not in gear before letting out the clutch which you start your car. Just like you would at a traffic light. you dont need to stare at the guage cluster very long to see the 1 or the R, and all you really have to do is wiggle the stick to see if its in Neutral. don't worry about it though. you just stalled your car, thats all.... but its your fault. :tup:

dude u have no idea how scared i was... cause there was a car in front of me... and for a second i thought i hit the car... and thats why my car stopped (stalled)...

lol so do you recommend first gear when turning car off?

Jeffblue 08-24-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 692235)
dude u have no idea how scared i was... cause there was a car in front of me... and for a second i thought i hit the car... and thats why my car stopped (stalled)...

lol so do you recommend first gear when turning car off?

it doesn't really hurt to do it. Just remember to do it in the right direction. you want to put the car in the gear that is OPPOSITE of how the car would roll if its parked on any type of incline. If forwards is UPhill, put it in first, if forwards is DOWNhill, put it in reverse.

It really just makes it more difficult for your car to move when parked. If you park on a totally flat surface, you theoretically dont even need to use the parking brake, but if someone comes along and pushes your car its gonna roll. i only use it if i'm parked on an incline or decline. Flat, its really not going to help or hurt you.

as long as you take it out of gear before you let out the clutch after you turn it on. Another safe thing to do is take it out of gear before you start the car.

Joebarchuck 08-24-2010 04:31 PM

I always park my car in second gear just because it is convenient for me the way it is positioned. There is no cons to put a car in gear while parked only pros.

Lloydy 08-24-2010 04:33 PM

In the UK we didn't even have that safety feature of having to put the clutch in first before the car would start, living here is the first time I have ever experienced that feature.
I always leave my car in gear so I always put it in neutral before I start it, force of habbit now since an older car I had didn't have a very good handbrake (e brake) so it couldn't be trusted to keep the car from rolling.

Jeffblue 08-24-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Joebarchuck (Post 692256)
I always park my car in second gear just because it is convenient for me the way it is positioned. There is no cons to put a car in gear while parked only pros.

unless you have remote start :stirthepot:

daleks 08-24-2010 04:37 PM

If you park in gear, just be sure to always put the car into neutral when starting it, and when turning it off don't just put it in gear, turn the car off, and then let the clutch out. You need to let the engine spin down before letting the clutch out, otherwise you'll lurch forward.

JayYoon 08-24-2010 05:41 PM

So basically...

if i am parking at an area where

if the car was in neutral and car was to fall back... 1st gear...
if the car was in neutral and car was to fall foward... reverse gear....

do i have this right?

Jeffblue 08-24-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 692358)
So basically...

if i am parking at an area where

if the car was in neutral and car was to fall back... 1st gear...
if the car was in neutral and car was to fall foward... reverse gear....

do i have this right?

yep:tup:

wolf370z 08-24-2010 05:55 PM

Always put it in gear, regardless of steepness or even presence of an incline. First gear if you roll backwards in neutral.
Reverse if you roll forwards in neutral.

And last but not least don't forget to set your handbrake/e-brake/parking brake. Always be cautious and pay attention when you're driving. You shouldn't be doing 50 things while your car is idling, just drive! :tup:

Hootie 08-24-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 692262)
unless you have remote start :stirthepot:

Hey, was that for me? ;) I totally agree

Cmike2780 08-24-2010 07:08 PM

I thought leaving it in gear would put stress on the transmission. I usually leave it in neutral and use the parking brake. Not too many hills in my area, so rolling isn't really a concern.

Joebarchuck 08-24-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 692462)
I thought leaving it in gear would put stress on the transmission. I usually leave it in neutral and use the parking brake. Not too many hills in my area, so rolling isn't really a concern.

In a technical point of view there is no reason that putting a car in gear while parked would put stress on the car.

Jeffblue 08-24-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 692378)
Hey, was that for me? ;) I totally agree

:tup:

JayYoon 08-25-2010 01:29 PM

Guys i have a quick question thats kinda off topic.

So other day i parked my car on a steep decline parking lot. Where if i were to let go of the brake the car would move forward.

So now it was time for me to leave but i asked myself "... uhhhhh".

First thing i did was press the brake and release the ebrake. Then i was bit confused. I press my clutch and quickly just kinda pressed the gas pedal before that car starting moving forward.

my point is that the car still moved forward a little. Is there a trick to this? where ur car wont move forward?

Cmike2780 08-25-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 693808)
Guys i have a quick question thats kinda off topic.

So other day i parked my car on a steep decline parking lot. Where if i were to let go of the brake the car would move forward.

So now it was time for me to leave but i asked myself "... uhhhhh".

First thing i did was press the brake and release the ebrake. Then i was bit confused. I press my clutch and quickly just kinda pressed the gas pedal before that car starting moving forward.

my point is that the car still moved forward a little. Is there a trick to this? where ur car wont move forward?

Unless you plan on changing the laws of Physics, the answer is no. It's impossible for your car to roll up the hill.

I'm not entirely sure what your asking.

Jeffblue 08-25-2010 04:03 PM

are you tlking about the slight lurch that happens once you activate the E brake, then let go of the foot brake.

cruzmisl 08-26-2010 02:29 PM

On any surface that has even the slightest incline, I put the car in the appropriate gear (first/reverse). Our parking brakes are the weakest I've ever had in a car and I won't rely on it unless the surface is completely flat (like my garage).

WestCo Scott 08-26-2010 06:21 PM

I have always left all my cars in first. As for the stress on the trans the routine that i use is park, leave the car in first, e brake, and turn the car off. My thought is that the parking brake should do the trick but if it somehow fails the gear will catch it. This is just the way I've done things and thought I'd share!

-Scott

m4a1mustang 08-26-2010 06:23 PM

I leave the car in gear when I'm parked.

Vegitto-kun 08-27-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 693808)
Guys i have a quick question thats kinda off topic.

So other day i parked my car on a steep decline parking lot. Where if i were to let go of the brake the car would move forward.

So now it was time for me to leave but i asked myself "... uhhhhh".

First thing i did was press the brake and release the ebrake. Then i was bit confused. I press my clutch and quickly just kinda pressed the gas pedal before that car starting moving forward.

my point is that the car still moved forward a little. Is there a trick to this? where ur car wont move forward?

jesus christ do you even know how to drive a manual?

I cant believe this topic even got so many replies.

Hootie 08-27-2010 07:14 PM

:bowrofl:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 697495)
jesus christ do you even know how to drive a manual?

I cant believe this topic even got so many replies.

:bowrofl:

red6spd 08-27-2010 07:17 PM

Just give it the little shake next time to make sure she is in Neutral

Cmike2780 08-27-2010 07:17 PM

I don't think he does know... I think it's his 1st manual car.

Zaggeron 08-27-2010 07:48 PM

Strange thread. Even stranger to me is that some folk keep their manual transmissions in neutral when they park. I just leave it in first -- the gear I was in when I stopped moving forward. I'd never trust the parking break even on a level surface much less a hill.

JayYoon 08-28-2010 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 697599)
Strange thread. Even stranger to me is that some folk keep their manual transmissions in neutral when they park. I just leave it in first -- the gear I was in when I stopped moving forward. I'd never trust the parking break even on a level surface much less a hill.

i am pretty confident more ppl in the world leave it on neutral than 1st gear~~;; i mite be wrong...

Vegitto-kun 08-28-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 698091)
i am pretty confident more ppl in the world leave it on neutral than 1st gear~~;; i mite be wrong...

if you walk around here you will see 95% of the parked cars in gear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 697558)
I don't think he does know... I think it's his 1st manual car.

Oh dear god, "Um what is MT DURR I STALLED CAUSE I FORGOT IT WAS IN GEAR BUT I DON4T MIND CUZ I LIEK GOING FROM SOME SLUSHBOX TO A HEAVY CLUTCHED MT SPORTCAR ARE I COOL NOW?":ugh2:

Here in belgium EVERYBODY takes their driving license test in a MT. pretty much everybody here drives MT anyway and those who drive AT know how to drive MT.

Hell if you take your driving license test with a AT you are not allowed to drive MT car without retaking the test

IDZRVIT 08-28-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 697495)
jesus christ do you even know how to drive a manual?

I cant believe this topic even got so many replies.

:iagree:
And not just this topic either. If people took the time to RTFM...............

JayYoon 08-29-2010 01:57 AM

95%... thats pushin it... but i can careless... lol....

Vegitto-kun 08-29-2010 08:41 AM

That is not pushing it at all.

the only cars with a AT that I see once in a while are the more expensive cars like say a 7 series BMW.

I once spend a hour looking at the cars passing past the place I was working, I had nothing to do do I spend my time like that.

I saw 3 ATs in that hour and those were 2 BMWs and one audi the rest were all MT and I am pretty sure I saw over 80 cars in that hour

We grow up with MT so it is natural for us to all drive MT

Mt Tam I am 08-29-2010 10:49 AM

Leaving my car in gear is habit from years of cars with poor or failing hand brakes. Starting the car and putting it in neutral is natural.
First gear works so well that when my 300 ZX parked in first gear handbrake engaged, got hit by drunk driver at speed (60 MPH), my poor car left 30 solid feet of rubber, tracing its last movements on the street until the curb.

DIGItonium 08-29-2010 12:31 PM

Back in the 350Z days, there were stories of the Z being in the middle of the street because it rolled down the driveway despite having the parking brake engaged. Then one day my buddy leaned on my 350Z, and it started moving. I thought he was crazy until he showed me, so that's pretty much the reason why I developed the habit of keeping it in gear even though people till this day question about it. My cousin, who has an '06 350Z, doesn't leave it in gear and wonders why I keep doing that.

IDZRVIT 08-29-2010 05:09 PM

Parking a manual in first or reverse is a no brainer. To do otherwise is just plain stupid.


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