SZ Clutch & Flywheel Upgrades + Bearing!

Seb@SZ · 08-13-2010, 10:40 AM

It's not just a ring but a replacement of the complete bearing and sleeve the bearing goes over and seal presses into.

You can see a picture of it below the factory installed unit. For those on the fence worried about the rest of the hydraulic system giving out you can wait and see what happens to see how things play out.

ROC1ROB · 08-12-2010, 07:59 AM

Is that a solid ring on the flywheel? Hard to tell from pic's. Hopefully with the proper engagement you guys wont have the CSC problems. I guess time will tell. GL

Seb@SZ · 08-12-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ROC1ROB

Is that a solid ring on the flywheel? Hard to tell from pic's. Hopefully with the proper engagement you guys wont have the CSC problems. I guess time will tell. GL

The ring gear? Yes it is one piece.

Zolfix · 08-12-2010, 12:55 PM

Pros/cons of the high 5 package over sport street for a NA daily driven car?

RCZ · 08-12-2010, 01:39 PM

There have been several reports of the CSC failing with aftermarket clutches and I know of a few that have happened that have not been reported. Its gonna happen eventually unless you make anew csc from scratch...

JB-370z · 09-08-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

There have been several reports of the CSC failing with aftermarket clutches and I know of a few that have happened that have not been reported. Its gonna happen eventually unless you make anew csc from scratch...

Hope someone listens to this ....... Sam are you out there????? Stillen, JWT ........Anyone listening????

Seb@SZ · 09-10-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

Hope someone listens to this ....... Sam are you out there????? Stillen, JWT ........Anyone listening????

We're addressing what seems to be the failures and weak links in the system. If we have problems we will get right back up and fix it. So far so good. CSCs are more present now in newer cars not limited to Nissans. We've found that other manufacturers have the same issue. A hard plastic that the seal goes up against. So far this fix used on other platforms is working great. What's happening is that this plastic portion is fatiguing from the heat, wear, and extra release required on aftermarket pressure plates. If it distorts or cracks like it is you have this issue of failing OE CSCs on aftermarket clutches. We've addressed the two main issues we believe to be the culprit. We are listening!

Seb

Bardabe · 08-12-2010, 08:14 PM

Just got home from chatsworth, Hi guys I'll just introduce myself here in this thread. I'm testing the High 5 on my 2007 Z33 (HR motor) me and Seb installed the clutch and flywheel combo today. ( I live 108 miles away from SZ) my car has seen 56K miles and allot of them where going to the track and to the grocery store. if you guys have any questions about how the clutch feels or any details you guys feel free to ask me or Seb. Today i Installed the clutch and drove it all the way from Chatsworth California to Perris California. I drove through LA traffic on the very first day i got the clutch meaning stop and go traffic, up hills down hills and clear highways.

the high 5 has very minimal chatter but I think what makes it more noticeable is the Nismo GT Pro LSD. because when i take off from lights on a straight line i have no chatter. clutch pedal feel is not that much heavier than stock and there is no flywheel noise at idle or low RPM's like all other Aluminum flywheels. driving is very pleasant. the shifting at high RPM's is very noticeable before i could not slam through the gears like i can now. rev matching is a breeze, this combo over all changed the car. it feels awesome. if you guys plan on modifying your 370's I say just go with the High 5 and never have to worry about if your clutch will hold the power. because this combo is very comfortable to daily drive.

oh how can i forget, if you guys have any questions feel free to ask me or Seb, I'm so Far the only other Authorized Installer. and setting up my vendor account as I type
-Juan

Bardabe · 08-13-2010, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zolfix

Pros/cons of the high 5 package over sport street for a NA daily driven car?

Pros you wont EVER have to worry about clutch not being able to hold the power even if fully built for N/A power, Drifting, Drag racing, No clutch chatter, light weight and easy on the trans.

Cons: Overkill for N/A Daily Driven power and slightly shorter life span due to puck clutch instead of full face.

if you really plan to just daily the car get the Sport Street you will absolutely love it I guarantee it. if you plan to track the car or have spirited driving from time to time, I would recommend the Sport 6-puck.

kevin.z · 08-13-2010, 03:59 AM

wait...Is this fix just a ring over csc or a full metal replacement of the csc? If it is just a ring over the csc, technically the problem is still not solved. You just bought more time for the ticking bomb.

BOLIO 671 · 08-13-2010, 05:11 AM

After reading this thread it seems that the upgraded bearing that you have created may be the key answer to all the other issues that other Aftermarket Clutch maunfactures were encountering with the whole CSC issue...it looks very promising, but like toner123 posted...I am one of those that are still on the fence because of all the issues other aftermarket clutches have had concerning the CSC...

Please do not get me wrong...this clutch system seems to have all the right answers...and if all goes well with future reviews, I will oin toner123 in opening up my wallet to acquire one...The price is reasonable...especially if no problems are encontered...however with the way the economy is right now, I would find it very difficult to cope with spending that kind of money and face the same issue that other aftermarket clutches have faced conerning the CSC.

NYBladeZ · 08-13-2010, 04:34 PM

I haven't read the whole thread just the first post. Am I correct in believing that the SZ bearing means that you won't need an aftermarket CSC (which currently doesn't exist)?

Bardabe · 08-18-2010, 10:45 AM

well i put my first track event on it last night. local time attack here at AMP did the first 2 sessions (2 hours) and it felt great no problems yet, drifting tomorrow, and maybe some tonight as well.

Bardabe · 08-28-2010, 06:02 PM

Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.

Seb@SZ · 08-29-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardabe

Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.

Awesome! Thanks for updating me and everyone else.

08-13-2010, 10:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Seb@SZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chatsworth Posts: 277 Drives: Zs Rep Power: 25	It's not just a ring but a replacement of the complete bearing and sleeve the bearing goes over and seal presses into. You can see a picture of it below the factory installed unit. For those on the fence worried about the rest of the hydraulic system giving out you can wait and see what happens to see how things play out. __________________ Z Car Specialists www.specialtyz.com Blog http://specialtyz.com/blog/

08-12-2010, 12:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Zolfix Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 35 Drives: '10 370z 6MT Rep Power: 16	Pros/cons of the high 5 package over sport street for a NA daily driven car? Last edited by Zolfix; 08-12-2010 at 12:57 PM.

08-12-2010, 08:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bardabe Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 57 Drives: R32 GT-R Rep Power: 15	Just got home from chatsworth, Hi guys I'll just introduce myself here in this thread. I'm testing the High 5 on my 2007 Z33 (HR motor) me and Seb installed the clutch and flywheel combo today. ( I live 108 miles away from SZ) my car has seen 56K miles and allot of them where going to the track and to the grocery store. if you guys have any questions about how the clutch feels or any details you guys feel free to ask me or Seb. Today i Installed the clutch and drove it all the way from Chatsworth California to Perris California. I drove through LA traffic on the very first day i got the clutch meaning stop and go traffic, up hills down hills and clear highways. the high 5 has very minimal chatter but I think what makes it more noticeable is the Nismo GT Pro LSD. because when i take off from lights on a straight line i have no chatter. clutch pedal feel is not that much heavier than stock and there is no flywheel noise at idle or low RPM's like all other Aluminum flywheels. driving is very pleasant. the shifting at high RPM's is very noticeable before i could not slam through the gears like i can now. rev matching is a breeze, this combo over all changed the car. it feels awesome. if you guys plan on modifying your 370's I say just go with the High 5 and never have to worry about if your clutch will hold the power. because this combo is very comfortable to daily drive. oh how can i forget, if you guys have any questions feel free to ask me or Seb, I'm so Far the only other Authorized Installer. and setting up my vendor account as I type -Juan Last edited by Bardabe; 08-12-2010 at 09:26 PM.

08-13-2010, 05:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3400	After reading this thread it seems that the upgraded bearing that you have created may be the key answer to all the other issues that other Aftermarket Clutch maunfactures were encountering with the whole CSC issue...it looks very promising, but like toner123 posted...I am one of those that are still on the fence because of all the issues other aftermarket clutches have had concerning the CSC... Please do not get me wrong...this clutch system seems to have all the right answers...and if all goes well with future reviews, I will oin toner123 in opening up my wallet to acquire one...The price is reasonable...especially if no problems are encontered...however with the way the economy is right now, I would find it very difficult to cope with spending that kind of money and face the same issue that other aftermarket clutches have faced conerning the CSC. __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

08-13-2010, 04:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	I haven't read the whole thread just the first post. Am I correct in believing that the SZ bearing means that you won't need an aftermarket CSC (which currently doesn't exist)? __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

08-12-2010, 07:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
ROC1ROB Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 201 Drives: 09 MT BS Base/Sports Rep Power: 16	Is that a solid ring on the flywheel? Hard to tell from pic's. Hopefully with the proper engagement you guys wont have the CSC problems. I guess time will tell. GL

08-12-2010, 01:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	There have been several reports of the CSC failing with aftermarket clutches and I know of a few that have happened that have not been reported. Its gonna happen eventually unless you make anew csc from scratch...

08-13-2010, 03:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
kevin.z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: vancouver(shipping:WA Posts: 359 Drives: 09 370z M6 PGtouring Rep Power: 16	wait...Is this fix just a ring over csc or a full metal replacement of the csc? If it is just a ring over the csc, technically the problem is still not solved. You just bought more time for the ticking bomb.

08-18-2010, 10:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
Bardabe Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 57 Drives: R32 GT-R Rep Power: 15	well i put my first track event on it last night. local time attack here at AMP did the first 2 sessions (2 hours) and it felt great no problems yet, drifting tomorrow, and maybe some tonight as well.

08-28-2010, 06:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bardabe Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 57 Drives: R32 GT-R Rep Power: 15	Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.

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