SZ Clutch & Flywheel Upgrades + Bearing!

Seb@SZ · 08-12-2010, 11:04 PM

As of right now, we will see how well the masters and slaves will be holding up with our setup. If there is an issue that causes them to fail because of aftermarket clutches we will investigate it and do what we can to come up with a solution. Luckily our pressure plates do not demand a tremendous amount of pressure to release helping take the load off the hydraulic system. There was never a proper solution to the slave bearing & assembly out there until now.

DIGItonium · 08-13-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Seb@SZ

You'd want to go with the Max Street setup.

I also want to double check whether the upgraded CSC is included with the price. Thanks!

Seb@SZ · 08-13-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I also want to double check whether the upgraded CSC is included with the price. Thanks!

Yes sir it is!

toner123 · 08-13-2010, 03:11 AM

personally I would love to see a upgraded master and slaves made. Mainly for the simple fact peace of mind. these cars are still fairly new and the age of upgrading the clutch is coming, and it is going to get big. Alot of people are already showing interest in upgrading them but are compelled to wait due to the issues others have had. We all know the problem exist and we know there is a demand for it so why not make it and add it as a optional package?

I must say though they look great, you would have my attention and wallet open if there was a replacement for the parts that have failed on others cars from upgrading.
Frank

Bardabe · 08-13-2010, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zolfix

Pros/cons of the high 5 package over sport street for a NA daily driven car?

Pros you wont EVER have to worry about clutch not being able to hold the power even if fully built for N/A power, Drifting, Drag racing, No clutch chatter, light weight and easy on the trans.

Cons: Overkill for N/A Daily Driven power and slightly shorter life span due to puck clutch instead of full face.

if you really plan to just daily the car get the Sport Street you will absolutely love it I guarantee it. if you plan to track the car or have spirited driving from time to time, I would recommend the Sport 6-puck.

kevin.z · 08-13-2010, 04:59 AM

wait...Is this fix just a ring over csc or a full metal replacement of the csc? If it is just a ring over the csc, technically the problem is still not solved. You just bought more time for the ticking bomb.

BOLIO 671 · 08-13-2010, 06:11 AM

After reading this thread it seems that the upgraded bearing that you have created may be the key answer to all the other issues that other Aftermarket Clutch maunfactures were encountering with the whole CSC issue...it looks very promising, but like toner123 posted...I am one of those that are still on the fence because of all the issues other aftermarket clutches have had concerning the CSC...

Please do not get me wrong...this clutch system seems to have all the right answers...and if all goes well with future reviews, I will oin toner123 in opening up my wallet to acquire one...The price is reasonable...especially if no problems are encontered...however with the way the economy is right now, I would find it very difficult to cope with spending that kind of money and face the same issue that other aftermarket clutches have faced conerning the CSC.

BOLIO 671 · 08-13-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I also want to double check whether the upgraded CSC is included with the price. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Seb@SZ

Yes sir it is!

I was reading your first l post with the introductory purchase and did not see this listed as one of the parts with the combo package...Can we get a break down and some pics of the upgraded CSC that your company manufactures?

Seb@SZ · 08-13-2010, 11:40 AM

It's not just a ring but a replacement of the complete bearing and sleeve the bearing goes over and seal presses into.

You can see a picture of it below the factory installed unit. For those on the fence worried about the rest of the hydraulic system giving out you can wait and see what happens to see how things play out.

NYBladeZ · 08-13-2010, 05:34 PM

I haven't read the whole thread just the first post. Am I correct in believing that the SZ bearing means that you won't need an aftermarket CSC (which currently doesn't exist)?

NYBladeZ · 08-13-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seb@SZ

For those on the fence worried about the rest of the hydraulic system giving out you can wait and see what happens to see how things play out.

I think your product and pricing look good but Killer Bee and a few others have documented the weakness in the CSC. Not to start an argument but your response means that the purchaser of this clutch is assuming a lot of risk. I appreciate your confidence in your product, but that won't cover the bill for a new CSC.

Seb@SZ · 08-13-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I think your product and pricing look good but Killer Bee and a few others have documented the weakness in the CSC. Not to start an argument but your response means that the purchaser of this clutch is assuming a lot of risk. I appreciate your confidence in your product, but that won't cover the bill for a new CSC.

Well, we've done something no one has at this point. We've replaced part of the factory CSC. People will need upgraded clutches and if required we will do what we can if our version of the modified CSC fails.

Bardabe · 08-18-2010, 11:45 AM

well i put my first track event on it last night. local time attack here at AMP did the first 2 sessions (2 hours) and it felt great no problems yet, drifting tomorrow, and maybe some tonight as well.

Bardabe · 08-28-2010, 07:02 PM

Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.

Seb@SZ · 08-29-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bardabe

Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.

Awesome! Thanks for updating me and everyone else.

08-12-2010, 11:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
Seb@SZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chatsworth Posts: 277 Drives: Zs Rep Power: 24	As of right now, we will see how well the masters and slaves will be holding up with our setup. If there is an issue that causes them to fail because of aftermarket clutches we will investigate it and do what we can to come up with a solution. Luckily our pressure plates do not demand a tremendous amount of pressure to release helping take the load off the hydraulic system. There was never a proper solution to the slave bearing & assembly out there until now. __________________ Z Car Specialists www.specialtyz.com Blog http://specialtyz.com/blog/

08-13-2010, 06:11 AM	#22 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3399	After reading this thread it seems that the upgraded bearing that you have created may be the key answer to all the other issues that other Aftermarket Clutch maunfactures were encountering with the whole CSC issue...it looks very promising, but like toner123 posted...I am one of those that are still on the fence because of all the issues other aftermarket clutches have had concerning the CSC... Please do not get me wrong...this clutch system seems to have all the right answers...and if all goes well with future reviews, I will oin toner123 in opening up my wallet to acquire one...The price is reasonable...especially if no problems are encontered...however with the way the economy is right now, I would find it very difficult to cope with spending that kind of money and face the same issue that other aftermarket clutches have faced conerning the CSC. __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

08-13-2010, 11:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
Seb@SZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chatsworth Posts: 277 Drives: Zs Rep Power: 24	It's not just a ring but a replacement of the complete bearing and sleeve the bearing goes over and seal presses into. You can see a picture of it below the factory installed unit. For those on the fence worried about the rest of the hydraulic system giving out you can wait and see what happens to see how things play out. __________________ Z Car Specialists www.specialtyz.com Blog http://specialtyz.com/blog/

08-13-2010, 05:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	I haven't read the whole thread just the first post. Am I correct in believing that the SZ bearing means that you won't need an aftermarket CSC (which currently doesn't exist)? __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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08-13-2010, 03:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
toner123 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: chesapeake va Age: 39 Posts: 823 Drives: TT 370z Touring/SP Rep Power: 16	personally I would love to see a upgraded master and slaves made. Mainly for the simple fact peace of mind. these cars are still fairly new and the age of upgrading the clutch is coming, and it is going to get big. Alot of people are already showing interest in upgrading them but are compelled to wait due to the issues others have had. We all know the problem exist and we know there is a demand for it so why not make it and add it as a optional package? I must say though they look great, you would have my attention and wallet open if there was a replacement for the parts that have failed on others cars from upgrading. Frank

08-13-2010, 04:59 AM	#21 (permalink)
kevin.z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: vancouver(shipping:WA Posts: 359 Drives: 09 370z M6 PGtouring Rep Power: 16	wait...Is this fix just a ring over csc or a full metal replacement of the csc? If it is just a ring over the csc, technically the problem is still not solved. You just bought more time for the ticking bomb.

08-18-2010, 11:45 AM	#28 (permalink)
Bardabe Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 57 Drives: R32 GT-R Rep Power: 15	well i put my first track event on it last night. local time attack here at AMP did the first 2 sessions (2 hours) and it felt great no problems yet, drifting tomorrow, and maybe some tonight as well.

08-28-2010, 07:02 PM	#29 (permalink)
Bardabe Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 57 Drives: R32 GT-R Rep Power: 15	Just clocked in 1000 miles last night, so car absolutely no problems clutch grabs just as hard as it did when it was new. it has 4 street drift sessions, 1 time attack session, and all the daily driving and stop and go traffic LA, and Riverside have to offer.