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Mike · 08-03-2010, 11:28 AM

yea, but it wouldn't have been good to either have no brake lights, or brake lights always on while on the track in traffic. For burnouts and drag racing, people just pull the abs fuse.

Modshack · 08-03-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

yes, the 350 and 370 both have this feature programmed in that says if you are braking, there is no reason you should also be accelerating, so it won't let the throttle open more than 15% if the brakes are applied. With the switch sending the signal that the brakes are on, it was restricting the throttles.

I think most drive by wire cars have this "feature" these days (throttle cut on brake activation). Toyota wishes they had it..

Glad you figured it out Mike!

SoCal 370Z · 08-03-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Toyota wishes they had it..

Yeah, this was one brought-up during the Toyota fiasco, and Nissan was given kudos for having this feature over Toyota!

kevin1985912 · 08-03-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I think most drive by wire cars have this "feature" these days (throttle cut on brake activation). Toyota wishes they had it..

Glad you figured it out Mike!

LOL~

wilsonp · 08-03-2010, 06:19 PM

Wouldn't have helped if Toyota's issue were mainly user error - but may have made it obvious to the media.

Given no brake torque, what is the best way to launch an automatic 370Z?

cossie1600 · 08-03-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I think most drive by wire cars have this "feature" these days (throttle cut on brake activation). Toyota wishes they had it..

Glad you figured it out Mike!

Yes they do have it on some cars

WarmAndSCSI · 08-03-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

Given no brake torque, what is the best way to launch an automatic 370Z?

You can still launch it by brake-torquing, you just have to be quick. Basically, it has to be one fluid motion: hold brake firm, floor the gas, release brake. All within 2 seconds or so.

In a drag strip scenario, I'm going to try to pull this off right as the next-to-last light on the tree appears... Skills yo

Jordo! · 08-04-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

You can still launch it by brake-torquing, you just have to be quick. Basically, it has to be one fluid motion: hold brake firm, floor the gas, release brake. All within 2 seconds or so.

In a drag strip scenario, I'm going to try to pull this off right as the next-to-last light on the tree appears... Skills yo

It hits flash stall so fast 2 sec seems like plenty of time. I tried this earlier today, and it worked fine

I always thought after about 5+ sec you start cooking the trans fluid anyway...

Seb@SZ · 08-04-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

Given no brake torque, what is the best way to launch an automatic 370Z?

A line lock should work the best when trying to launch. It locks the brakes hydraulically and holds it until you disengage the switch.

1slow370 · 08-04-2010, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

Wouldn't have helped if Toyota's issue were mainly user error - but may have made it obvious to the media.

Given no brake torque, what is the best way to launch an automatic 370Z?

Yeah but yota's problem was shown not to be user error in several cases most notably the one with the old guy in the prius going 60 on the highway with his brakes smoking and a squad car got in front of him and used his brakes to slow the car down. (don't know why the guy didn't shift into neutral but w/e it shows yota fudged up)

Mike · 08-04-2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Yeah but yota's problem was shown not to be user error in several cases most notably the one with the old guy in the prius going 60 on the highway with his brakes smoking and a squad car got in front of him and used his brakes to slow the car down. (don't know why the guy didn't shift into neutral but w/e it shows yota fudged up)

actually, I think a report from the black boxes just came out that said it was user error in almost every case. That guy in the prius was in foreclosure and several months behind in his car payments too, just saying.

cossie1600 · 08-04-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Yeah but yota's problem was shown not to be user error in several cases most notably the one with the old guy in the prius going 60 on the highway with his brakes smoking and a squad car got in front of him and used his brakes to slow the car down. (don't know why the guy didn't shift into neutral but w/e it shows yota fudged up)

He was trying to committ fraud. Car has a built in brake override. He was simply riding the brakes lightly and kept going. He didnt want to shift to neutral as it would ruin his plan. Isn't it funny you don't hear those stories anymore?

red6spd · 08-04-2010, 10:43 AM

I wonder how many people tried to sit there and bake there tires infront of a group of people only to fail lol.

SkyZ · 08-05-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Yeah but yota's problem was shown not to be user error in several cases most notably the one with the old guy in the prius going 60 on the highway with his brakes smoking and a squad car got in front of him and used his brakes to slow the car down. (don't know why the guy didn't shift into neutral but w/e it shows yota fudged up)

yeah i also think he stopped the car using the handbrake and not the cruiser. which doesnt make sense since the brakes use all 4 brakes while the handbrake uses one. he just applied partial brake on full throttle cooked his brakes, created a lot of brake smoke and yah it was a scam

DIGItonium · 08-05-2010, 02:27 PM

Hmm... now you're getting me curious, but I'm not completely sure if I have an issue or not.

Lately my throttle seems to lag or hesitate from stand still as if I'm starting in 2nd. I press the pedal further, and it doesn't do any good and feels like ABS is kicking in preventing additional power from getting to the wheels without the braking feeling. It's worse with A/C running, so that's why I'm not completely sure if it's an issue. It's a pretty scary feeling when trying to make a turn in traffic as the car lags and doesn't move as quickly as anticipated in 1st gear.

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Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	yea, but it wouldn't have been good to either have no brake lights, or brake lights always on while on the track in traffic. For burnouts and drag racing, people just pull the abs fuse. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	I wonder how many people tried to sit there and bake there tires infront of a group of people only to fail lol. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Hmm... now you're getting me curious, but I'm not completely sure if I have an issue or not. Lately my throttle seems to lag or hesitate from stand still as if I'm starting in 2nd. I press the pedal further, and it doesn't do any good and feels like ABS is kicking in preventing additional power from getting to the wheels without the braking feeling. It's worse with A/C running, so that's why I'm not completely sure if it's an issue. It's a pretty scary feeling when trying to make a turn in traffic as the car lags and doesn't move as quickly as anticipated in 1st gear. __________________

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wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	Wouldn't have helped if Toyota's issue were mainly user error - but may have made it obvious to the media. Given no brake torque, what is the best way to launch an automatic 370Z?