Costs per HP gain unworthy for our Z's

wolf370z · 07-29-2010, 07:59 PM

I definitely agree with that. The Z does feel really great and is a well engineered vehicle. Heck, I may even end up keeping the 370z and getting a z06 as well or even an srt10 or acr viper. Really its up in the air and will most likely take a backseat to my next project car, so it'll be even longer before I make a decision... just going to enjoy the Z for now!

Lemers · 07-30-2010, 12:56 AM

Wow! What resession? Everyone is talking about $10k turbos or just going out and buying a second car. I love my Z and may make some mods after my next deployment (plan to keep the Z until 2020 if gas is still availible). Do I wish that simple bolt-ons had more hp gains yes, but I'm not disappointed in what I get from the Z off the lot either.

wolf370z · 07-30-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Wow! What resession? Everyone is talking about $10k turbos or just going out and buying a second car. I love my Z and may make some mods after my next deployment (plan to keep the Z until 2020 if gas is still availible). Do I wish that simple bolt-ons had more hp gains yes, but I'm not disappointed in what I get from the Z off the lot either.

I say the exact same thing every time I walk into a restaurant, "Wow look at all these people waiting in line, some recession!"

Or when I walk into an IMAX, "Wow look at all these people in here who $10+ for movie tickets, some recession!"

Just because we're in a recession doesn't mean you can't spend outside of your means, it's the American way!

toner123 · 07-30-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf370z

I say the exact same thing every time I walk into a restaurant, "Wow look at all these people waiting in line, some recession!"

Or when I walk into an IMAX, "Wow look at all these people in here who $10+ for movie tickets, some recession!"

Just because we're in a recession doesn't mean you can't spend outside of your means, it's the American way!

greatest country in the world and I am proud to serve it
Frank

Zsteve · 07-30-2010, 09:02 AM

those with jobs can still spend but there are more without jobs right now than ever before, and of course they are not in these forums.

TongMan · 07-30-2010, 09:19 AM

The U.S. economy is still in recession. Many of us members are fortunate enough to have jobs that meets our ends. There are people out there that are laid off from their jobs and are having their lives turn upside down. Be happy that you are able to still enjoy your sports car(s) and going out to the movies.

Please don't be ignorant about the current economic situation. You only see what you want to see because the people suffering and strugling you glance past them.

Lug · 07-30-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

those with jobs can still spend but there are more without jobs right now than ever before,

Not even close my friend. We had higher unemployment under Carter/Reagan than this and certainly MUCH more during the Great Deppression.

Lug · 07-30-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

The U.S. economy is still in recession. Many of us members are fortunate enough to have jobs that meets our ends. There are people out there that are laid off from their jobs and are having their lives turn upside down. Be happy that you are able to still enjoy your sports car(s) and going out to the movies.

Please don't be ignorant about the current economic situation. You only see what you want to see because the people suffering and strugling you glance past them.

The US is no longer in recession. Jobs, unfortunatly remain very scarce but jobs growth always lags the economic realities.

370Zsteve · 07-30-2010, 02:13 PM

Red__Zed · 07-30-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

lol. exactly what just happened to this thread.

Zsteve · 07-30-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Not even close my friend. We had higher unemployment under Carter/Reagan than this and certainly MUCH more during the Great Deppression.

well a depression is different than a recession as it is longer and bigger. We are still in a recession as we are importing more than exporting and our trade and of prosperity is not up to par as a whole. Now weather it was worse with reagan and all Im not sure but believe me, we are still ****** right now as a country. And thse with jobs are holding back too. In here you will see alot of younger people buying things as they may not have the overall bills that some older people do, ie families to support, kids in college etc. Sure there are always exceptions but for the most part its the younger generation buying things right now. The older generation is trying to secure their retirement and not spending.

TongMan · 07-30-2010, 03:40 PM

I guess we started talking about how much money it costs to juice hp from our 370z's and that it doesn't seem worth it for the amount of hp freed to people with and without money and then to the current economic status. Still about money.

Zsteve · 07-30-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

I guess we started talking about how much money it costs to juice hp from our 370z's and that it doesn't seem worth it for the amount of hp freed to people with and without money and then to the current economic status. Still about money.

its what makes the world turn, and I want more of it.

Lug · 07-30-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

well a depression is different than a recession as it is longer and bigger. We are still in a recession as we are importing more than exporting and our trade and of prosperity is not up to par as a whole. Now weather it was worse with reagan and all Im not sure but believe me, we are still ****** right now as a country. And thse with jobs are holding back too. In here you will see alot of younger people buying things as they may not have the overall bills that some older people do, ie families to support, kids in college etc. Sure there are always exceptions but for the most part its the younger generation buying things right now. The older generation is trying to secure their retirement and not spending.

What you say makes sense to me but the fact is we are no longer in a recession. That ended a while back.

Mr&Mrs · 08-01-2010, 10:00 AM

The price of bolt ons for gains in this car are more then others yes, but im looking at the total package price. To me that is HP, Looks, Sound, etc. The bolt ons you mentioned raise appeal on all those levels. The value is unmatched if you ask me. I have had to put 10-15k in evey car I have ever owned to get it to a point of balanced looks and performance. Plus I love the fact that this car does not have 100 different staged packages, from 100 different companies claming only 20 were built 600 HP+ blah blah blah like the Mustangs, Camaros, and Vettes. I want to turn heads from everyone not just gear heads. Anyway like I said all things taken in to consideration, IMO the price is not bad at all.

07-29-2010, 07:59 PM	#61 (permalink)
wolf370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: United States Posts: 230 Drives: 09 370z red m6 Rep Power: 15	I definitely agree with that. The Z does feel really great and is a well engineered vehicle. Heck, I may even end up keeping the 370z and getting a z06 as well or even an srt10 or acr viper. Really its up in the air and will most likely take a backseat to my next project car, so it'll be even longer before I make a decision... just going to enjoy the Z for now! __________________ Good drivers just drive.

07-30-2010, 12:56 AM	#62 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Wow! What resession? Everyone is talking about $10k turbos or just going out and buying a second car. I love my Z and may make some mods after my next deployment (plan to keep the Z until 2020 if gas is still availible). Do I wish that simple bolt-ons had more hp gains yes, but I'm not disappointed in what I get from the Z off the lot either. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

07-30-2010, 09:02 AM	#65 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	those with jobs can still spend but there are more without jobs right now than ever before, and of course they are not in these forums. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

07-30-2010, 02:13 PM	#69 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	__________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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07-30-2010, 09:19 AM	#66 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	The U.S. economy is still in recession. Many of us members are fortunate enough to have jobs that meets our ends. There are people out there that are laid off from their jobs and are having their lives turn upside down. Be happy that you are able to still enjoy your sports car(s) and going out to the movies. Please don't be ignorant about the current economic situation. You only see what you want to see because the people suffering and strugling you glance past them.

07-30-2010, 03:40 PM	#72 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	I guess we started talking about how much money it costs to juice hp from our 370z's and that it doesn't seem worth it for the amount of hp freed to people with and without money and then to the current economic status. Still about money.

08-01-2010, 10:00 AM	#75 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31940	The price of bolt ons for gains in this car are more then others yes, but im looking at the total package price. To me that is HP, Looks, Sound, etc. The bolt ons you mentioned raise appeal on all those levels. The value is unmatched if you ask me. I have had to put 10-15k in evey car I have ever owned to get it to a point of balanced looks and performance. Plus I love the fact that this car does not have 100 different staged packages, from 100 different companies claming only 20 were built 600 HP+ blah blah blah like the Mustangs, Camaros, and Vettes. I want to turn heads from everyone not just gear heads. Anyway like I said all things taken in to consideration, IMO the price is not bad at all.