Costs per HP gain unworthy for our Z's

Lug · 07-27-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

True... the Z does have a modest increase in power per performance, but the Z can be made lighter in weight. Those modest gains then become more significant.

And besides that, the Z is a freakin looker. I love the GT500 and the new Stang, but the Z has that WHOA factor.

Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

Zsteve · 07-27-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

This is true, they should have changed the body of the stang to a small but noticeable degree to make it stand out as the new standard to beat, and not to look like the lesser power stangs. The current stang body style is so over done its lost its cool status.

TBSS2008 · 07-27-2010, 04:15 PM

The Z is definitely a very nice looking car. I did the basic mods I/HFC/CBE and tune. The car is definitely faster and sounds better then before but still not Corvette territory. I spent about $2,500.00 for all the mods which includes the cost of installing the parts as well. I haven't been to the track since completing the mods but it should be good for high 12s.

I thought about FI but I am just going to enjoy what I have and buy a used Corvette LS3 Z51 6M in a few years when the Z has about 100k miles on it I am at 30k right now.

Now the Corvette responds very well to mods. I was actually cross shopping the 2009 C6 Z51 and the 370z Sport/Touring some times I think I should have coughed up the extra 5-6k for the C6. It's ridiculous how much HP they put out.

C6 Corvette Bolt-Ons - LS3 Performance Package Test - Corvette Fever Magazine
C6 LS3
Stock: 371whp 365wtq
Bolt ons (I/H/E/Tune): 431whp 412wtq +60hp +46tq

Zsteve · 07-27-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TBSS2008

The Z is definitely a very nice looking car. I did the basic mods I/HFC/CBE and tune. The car is definitely faster and sounds better then before but still not Corvette territory. I spent about $2,500.00 for all the mods which includes the cost of installing the parts as well. I haven't been to the track since completing the mods but it should be good for high 12s.

I thought about FI but I am just going to enjoy what I have and buy a used Corvette LS3 Z51 6M in a few years when the Z has about 100k miles on it I am at 30k right now.

Now the Corvette responds very well to mods. I was actually cross shopping the 2009 C6 Z51 and the 370z Sport/Touring some times I think I should have coughed up the extra 5-6k for the C6. It's ridiculous how much HP they put out.

C6 Corvette Bolt-Ons - LS3 Performance Package Test - Corvette Fever Magazine
C6 LS3
Stock: 371whp 365wtq
Bolt ons (I/H/E/Tune): 431whp 412wtq +60hp +46tq

If the wife gets the new job she is trying for then I will be trading in the Z for a 2011 GS LT3 corvette. It looks nice and having 400+ hp and 400+ tq on a NA is awesome. Here in El paso I will have some pretty good open areas to feel the cars potential and there is a nice hilly twisty road that goes over the mountain to get to the other side of the city that will be a nice drive for it.

Wifey gets the new job I get the new car. Gotta love it.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-27-2010, 10:20 PM

Honestly, the 370Z is quick enough out the door for most people. The only mods we do will be ones that are fun to do. When I'm used to making or losing 30-50 WHP depending on a tune, 20-30 WHP just isn't worth the thousands of dollars it costs to achieve. This is definitely not a car you buy to go fast in a straight line. ****, if that's all you want, buy an SRT-4 and throw some slicks on it.

mrcardio · 07-27-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I had a Audi TT and a canned tune for it gave me 50 hp and 80 tq on a 2.0t 4 cyl. Add the downpipe and CBE and add another 20 or so hp/tq. I had over 300 tq on a fwd car.

Yeah with just an intake +20-25hp/tq the MS3 makes over 300ft-lbs of Torque, with mods you listed it's at like 360-380ft-lbs. Not exactly great with FWD though unless you're doing a 3rd gear roll-on.

TBSS2008 · 07-28-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

If the wife gets the new job she is trying for then I will be trading in the Z for a 2011 GS LT3 corvette. It looks nice and having 400+ hp and 400+ tq on a NA is awesome. Here in El paso I will have some pretty good open areas to feel the cars potential and there is a nice hilly twisty road that goes over the mountain to get to the other side of the city that will be a nice drive for it.

Wifey gets the new job I get the new car. Gotta love it.

I wish you and your wife the best of luck with the possible new job offer.

The Grand Sport is sick! I really like the wheels and the wide body look. Not to mention just a few mods brings that LS3 almost to Z06 hp. The C6 Z06 puts down about 443whp 412wtq (Z06 dyno numbers - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum) vs bolt on LS3 431whp 412tq pretty damn close for ALOT less money and still get the wide body looks!

But for the record I still love my Z. It's funny how quick you get use to power. I took a vacation recently and rented a Kia with a 1.6 4cyl for a week. When I got back from the trip and drove my Z again I thought did someone put a supercharger in this thing while I was gone, damn its fast. Few months go by and I am in here talking about a Corvette, never enough lol.

Zsteve · 07-28-2010, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBSS2008

I wish you and your wife the best of luck with the possible new job offer.

The Grand Sport is sick! I really like the wheels and the wide body look. Not to mention just a few mods brings that LS3 almost to Z06 hp. The C6 Z06 puts down about 443whp 412wtq (Z06 dyno numbers - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum) vs bolt on LS3 431whp 412tq pretty damn close for ALOT less money and still get the wide body looks!

But for the record I still love my Z. It's funny how quick you get use to power. I took a vacation recently and rented a Kia with a 1.6 4cyl for a week. When I got back from the trip and drove my Z again I thought did someone put a supercharger in this thing while I was gone, damn its fast. Few months go by and I am in here talking about a Corvette, never enough lol.

Thanks, and yea I know what you mean about never having enough power once you get use to it. Thats one of the reasons Im going to the vette, would love a GTR but I dont think I can afford that yet. Still have a kid in college and another in the pocket still too.

TongMan · 07-28-2010, 10:53 AM

Once you got the Vette...you'll be wanting the GTR more...or maybe the ZR1...its a cycle of torture.

Vegitto-kun · 07-28-2010, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug

Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

Over here people would cream their pants if they see a new mustang.

including me

TongMan · 07-28-2010, 11:05 AM

It's going to be funny to see Mustang owners buying those 5.0 emblems and sticking it onto their base Mustang...haha...

theDreamer · 07-28-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

It's going to be funny to see Mustang owners buying those 5.0 emblems and sticking it onto their base Mustang...haha...

Huh? Base Mustangs, are you referring to V6 Mustangs?

Vegitto-kun · 07-28-2010, 11:42 AM

I want a mustang now after checking out the GT500

jnaut · 07-28-2010, 11:54 AM

well, it is deff more expensive to modify these cars, but the increase is still there. Yes i am full of bolt-ons, and just had it tuned yesterday, i am 74 hp over stock. i put down 319 and on the same dyno stockers do 245. So the moral is u gotta pay to play, lol. not used to this have since i had a mustang and civic before , which we all know it dont get any cheaper than those cars for mods!!

Lug · 07-28-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

I want a mustang now after checking out the GT500

I imagine a GT500 sticker price would make you go

in Belgium!

07-27-2010, 04:15 PM	#33 (permalink)
TBSS2008 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 195 Drives: 11 Corvette GS 6spd Rep Power: 16	The Z is definitely a very nice looking car. I did the basic mods I/HFC/CBE and tune. The car is definitely faster and sounds better then before but still not Corvette territory. I spent about $2,500.00 for all the mods which includes the cost of installing the parts as well. I haven't been to the track since completing the mods but it should be good for high 12s. I thought about FI but I am just going to enjoy what I have and buy a used Corvette LS3 Z51 6M in a few years when the Z has about 100k miles on it I am at 30k right now. Now the Corvette responds very well to mods. I was actually cross shopping the 2009 C6 Z51 and the 370z Sport/Touring some times I think I should have coughed up the extra 5-6k for the C6. It's ridiculous how much HP they put out. C6 Corvette Bolt-Ons - LS3 Performance Package Test - Corvette Fever Magazine C6 LS3 Stock: 371whp 365wtq Bolt ons (I/H/E/Tune): 431whp 412wtq +60hp +46tq __________________ 2011 Black Corvette Grand Sport 6spd \| NNP Daul Mode Exhaust 2008 Trail Blazer SS Black \| SuperChips Tune 2009 370Z Black 7AT Touring Sport (TRADED) Last edited by TBSS2008; 07-27-2010 at 04:30 PM.

07-27-2010, 10:20 PM	#35 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Honestly, the 370Z is quick enough out the door for most people. The only mods we do will be ones that are fun to do. When I'm used to making or losing 30-50 WHP depending on a tune, 20-30 WHP just isn't worth the thousands of dollars it costs to achieve. This is definitely not a car you buy to go fast in a straight line. **, if that's all you want, buy an SRT-4 and throw some slicks on it. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6** - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

07-28-2010, 11:54 AM	#44 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	well, it is deff more expensive to modify these cars, but the increase is still there. Yes i am full of bolt-ons, and just had it tuned yesterday, i am 74 hp over stock. i put down 319 and on the same dyno stockers do 245. So the moral is u gotta pay to play, lol. not used to this have since i had a mustang and civic before , which we all know it dont get any cheaper than those cars for mods!! __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

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