Help with dealer repair dispute on Clutch shudder

fisherg · 10-27-2011, 05:42 AM

The shudder returned after about 1k miles. It happens only after the drivetrain is warmed up. I suspected something like the CSC as the dealer did not replace that when they replaced the clutch. It's now more of an annoyance than anything. Perhaps I'll get lucky at some point and my csc will fail as well...

ImportConvert · 10-27-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elmz

If you test drove other 370'z and did not experience this, then there is something wrong. Maybe the clutch pedal needs some adjustments. Good luck, keep us posted.

Does Nissan use an adjustable clutch quadrant/cable? I thought it was hydraulic? No other clutch is adjustable, not the mustang, 'vette, camaro, or any other factory car I am familiar with.

m4a1mustang · 10-27-2011, 08:58 AM

No adjustments. It's hydraulic.

ImportConvert · 10-27-2011, 08:59 AM

Part of me thinks this may be caused by improper clutch break-in. Shudder with a new clutch is normal. Shift it hard or otherwise abuse it until it's broken in, and you may have more problems to deal with that won't wear-in.

ImportConvert · 10-27-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

No adjustments. It's hydraulic.

That's what I figured. Just saw all these people rambling about "adjustment needed" and wondered wtf. In my short database of experience, hydraulic clutches from the factory are self-adjusting for wear and that's it.

zpower86 · 11-15-2011, 09:35 AM

I had the dealer look at mine, and they agreed there was a definite problem. They are replacing it sometime this week. Is there anything I should look out for, or make sure they replace? Resurface flywheel?

roy'sz · 11-18-2011, 04:41 PM

if you aren't giving enough throttle the clutch will shudder. that is the purpose of the springs on the plate itself. Clutch 101 my friend. It is absolutely normal. Throw just a little bit more throttle in and you'll be a-ok

Methodical4u · 11-18-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Honestly I feel like you're fighting a losing battle. This happens on all of the MT cars if you don't get the clutch action right. It's been brought up many times before on the boards and it's widely accepted as normal. I'm sure the dealership feels the same way so it's going to be tough to get any sort of warranty service for something that the service dept (and most likely NISSAN) does not think is a problem.

It probably is a losing battle... but it's the point that Nissan should at least listen to their customers... offer them something... tell them you will try a better clutch fluid, tranny fluid... something that they MIGHT feel make the issue a little better for a car owner so that they come in their doors again when the time comes to get another car.

I have called Nissan myself about the oil temp thing, as well as the airbag light coming on even when my Fiancee is in the car with it. Neither should really be an issue.

With so many companies out there with bad reps with their warranties (Mitsubishi being one I can attest about) Nissan has a chance to outdo their competitors.

10-27-2011, 05:42 AM	#31 (permalink)
fisherg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 90 Drives: 10 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 20	The shudder returned after about 1k miles. It happens only after the drivetrain is warmed up. I suspected something like the CSC as the dealer did not replace that when they replaced the clutch. It's now more of an annoyance than anything. Perhaps I'll get lucky at some point and my csc will fail as well... __________________ THE OPEN ROAD IS WAITING.....Solid Red Touring 370ZR w/Navi

10-27-2011, 08:58 AM	#33 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	No adjustments. It's hydraulic. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Part of me thinks this may be caused by improper clutch break-in. Shudder with a new clutch is normal. Shift it hard or otherwise abuse it until it's broken in, and you may have more problems to deal with that won't wear-in.

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roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	if you aren't giving enough throttle the clutch will shudder. that is the purpose of the springs on the plate itself. Clutch 101 my friend. It is absolutely normal. Throw just a little bit more throttle in and you'll be a-ok