Help with dealer repair dispute on Clutch shudder

Holliday · 07-20-2010, 01:50 PM

Mine does it from 1st to 2nd. It seams really sensitive between these two gears. I have to release the clutch really slow to make it smooth. I only have 211 miles so I am sure with time the clutch will break in and my foot will learn the feel to make it smooth. Good luck with your issue

Cmike2780 · 07-20-2010, 02:20 PM

Grab a camera and see if you can record it. It's really difficult to understand what you mean, especially with this transmission. Then at least people can compare it to the way their cars drive. Good luck.

fisherg · 07-20-2010, 03:35 PM

My car is at the dealer now and I'm going in tomorrow morning to drive it with their "master tech" who they say know these transmissions. I will be able to exactly describe what it is doing.

Zsteve · 07-22-2010, 09:34 AM

Its just the feel of the car your are getting. Thats whats great about the MT.

fisherg · 07-22-2010, 07:42 PM

After having the tech drive with me he agreed that the shudder in my vehicle is not normal and the dealer is going to install a new clutch under warranty. They were not driving the car to full operating temp. The car needs to be driven for at least 15 minutes for the shudder to show itself at every startup and they only took it around the lot. Here in MN not many of these are sold much less serviced so I had to do my own research and test drive several used 370's to get a comparison.

m4a1mustang · 07-22-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fisherg

After having the tech drive with me he agreed that the shudder in my vehicle is not normal and the dealer is going to install a new clutch under warranty. They were not driving the car to full operating temp. The car needs to be driven for at least 15 minutes for the shudder to show itself at every startup and they only took it around the lot. Here in MN not many of these are sold much less serviced so I had to do my own research and test drive several used 370's to get a comparison.

Soon · 07-22-2010, 07:44 PM

mine definitely shudders

Cmike2780 · 07-22-2010, 08:32 PM

I still don't understand what you mean my shudder. Could you elaborate so people will know what to look for in case we encounter the same issue?

kgreen · 07-22-2010, 09:11 PM

With your new clutch your still going to have chatter. Search the around the forum for similiar threads and you will find out its normal. The 370s you test drove werent broken in most likely so its probably not there yet. It is what it is but best of luck to you

fisherg · 07-23-2010, 05:07 AM

The 370's I drove all had between 8,000 and 10,000 miles on them and no drivetrain shaking. My drivetrain shakes on startup and I want my car to act like the others I drove which don't. I know this clutch is noisy and I don't care about that. I'll just have to wait and see if they can fix it.

Holliday · 07-23-2010, 07:19 AM

GOOD LUCK

elmz · 07-23-2010, 05:56 PM

Sweet! Glad the dealer was able to experience what you were describing. The Z has a clunky and noisy tranny so a lot of people will not empathize with you.

fisherg · 08-03-2010, 09:12 PM

I just picked up my "Z" today from my dealer with a new clutch & flywheel and the difference is amazing. The clutch engagement is super smooth like it is supposed to be and the same as the other 370's I compared it to. The flywheel had several hot spots which apparently caused the shudder. Since the shudder was present ever since I picked up the car with 19 miles it must have happened at the dealer. This was a dealer trade from IL and someone driving it at the original dealership must have burnt the clutch as I was present when my local dealer received it off the truck and was only driven to the garage for prep and wash before I drove it.

tonybui · 08-03-2010, 11:06 PM

What is clutch slip and shudder?

zpower86 · 10-07-2011, 12:49 PM

I just got my Z in July with only 9 miles on it and I'm having the same shuttering issue. I'm getting my first oil change today and am going to ask them to look at it.

Fisherg, how is your clutch now after getting some miles on it?

07-20-2010, 01:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Holliday Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cache, OK Age: 39 Posts: 916 Drives: in the fast lane.... Rep Power: 17	Mine does it from 1st to 2nd. It seams really sensitive between these two gears. I have to release the clutch really slow to make it smooth. I only have 211 miles so I am sure with time the clutch will break in and my foot will learn the feel to make it smooth. Good luck with your issue __________________

07-20-2010, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Grab a camera and see if you can record it. It's really difficult to understand what you mean, especially with this transmission. Then at least people can compare it to the way their cars drive. Good luck. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

07-20-2010, 03:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
fisherg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 90 Drives: 10 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 20	My car is at the dealer now and I'm going in tomorrow morning to drive it with their "master tech" who they say know these transmissions. I will be able to exactly describe what it is doing. __________________ THE OPEN ROAD IS WAITING.....Solid Red Touring 370ZR w/Navi

07-22-2010, 09:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Its just the feel of the car your are getting. Thats whats great about the MT. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

07-22-2010, 07:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
fisherg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 90 Drives: 10 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 20	After having the tech drive with me he agreed that the shudder in my vehicle is not normal and the dealer is going to install a new clutch under warranty. They were not driving the car to full operating temp. The car needs to be driven for at least 15 minutes for the shudder to show itself at every startup and they only took it around the lot. Here in MN not many of these are sold much less serviced so I had to do my own research and test drive several used 370's to get a comparison. __________________ THE OPEN ROAD IS WAITING.....Solid Red Touring 370ZR w/Navi

07-22-2010, 07:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Soon Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rockland NY Posts: 240 Drives: 2008 Cherokee SRT8 Rep Power: 16	mine definitely shudders __________________ 2009 blk 370z=SOLD Now drives... SRT!!

07-22-2010, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I still don't understand what you mean my shudder. Could you elaborate so people will know what to look for in case we encounter the same issue? __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

07-22-2010, 09:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
kgreen Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EL Paso, Tx Posts: 387 Drives: SR 370z Rep Power: 244	With your new clutch your still going to have chatter. Search the around the forum for similiar threads and you will find out its normal. The 370s you test drove werent broken in most likely so its probably not there yet. It is what it is but best of luck to you

07-23-2010, 05:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
fisherg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 90 Drives: 10 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 20	The 370's I drove all had between 8,000 and 10,000 miles on them and no drivetrain shaking. My drivetrain shakes on startup and I want my car to act like the others I drove which don't. I know this clutch is noisy and I don't care about that. I'll just have to wait and see if they can fix it. __________________ THE OPEN ROAD IS WAITING.....Solid Red Touring 370ZR w/Navi

07-23-2010, 07:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Holliday Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cache, OK Age: 39 Posts: 916 Drives: in the fast lane.... Rep Power: 17	GOOD LUCK __________________

07-23-2010, 05:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 18	Sweet! Glad the dealer was able to experience what you were describing. The Z has a clunky and noisy tranny so a lot of people will not empathize with you.

08-03-2010, 09:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
fisherg Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 90 Drives: 10 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 20	Update I just picked up my "Z" today from my dealer with a new clutch & flywheel and the difference is amazing. The clutch engagement is super smooth like it is supposed to be and the same as the other 370's I compared it to. The flywheel had several hot spots which apparently caused the shudder. Since the shudder was present ever since I picked up the car with 19 miles it must have happened at the dealer. This was a dealer trade from IL and someone driving it at the original dealership must have burnt the clutch as I was present when my local dealer received it off the truck and was only driven to the garage for prep and wash before I drove it. __________________ THE OPEN ROAD IS WAITING.....Solid Red Touring 370ZR w/Navi

08-03-2010, 11:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
tonybui A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,397 Drives: 09 Sports 6 Speed Rep Power: 428	What is clutch slip and shudder?

10-07-2011, 12:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
zpower86 Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 189 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	I just got my Z in July with only 9 miles on it and I'm having the same shuttering issue. I'm getting my first oil change today and am going to ask them to look at it. Fisherg, how is your clutch now after getting some miles on it?

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