Ah geez... I nap for an hour and see a billion things to respond to in one thread... LOL OK, MightyBoo, I live in Los Angeles, and the muscle cars
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02-23-2009, 01:48 AM | #31 (permalink) |
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Ah geez... I nap for an hour and see a billion things to respond to in one thread... LOL
OK, MightyBoo, I live in Los Angeles, and the muscle cars I see out here are not just garaged. There's a LOT of them out here that are being driven like they were meant to be. Trust me on that. I see races all the time. In Compton, some of the best races go down. 10, 9, and sometimes 8 second cars race down there... The street races there NEVER lose their allure... Especially when both cars are doing wheelies off the line... Yeah, people can get hurt and no cops almost never show up. Lightweight flywheels don't add HP at all, they reduce the amount of potential HP lost through the drivetrain. However, since we're talking about N/A that won't make it to 500HP crank, a lightweight fly wheel is NOT going to be a weak point in the system. LSx motors make 500HP VERY easily so yes, in an LSx application, there's no need to use a lightweight flywheel. Also, keep in mind that an LSx has plenty more torque (345Lbs+) and therefore can get the drivetrain spinning a lot easier. The VQ can use all the help it can get to speed up the revs. Multiplier does depend on the motor. LSx motors LOVED mods. Little mods made big differences and every mod did help the other quite a bit. The VQ, not so much. I think that other mods to the VQ won't help each other enough until you FI the motor anyway.
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I think we need to get away from the FI vs NA discusion a bit and focus more on the thread topic. I could go on all day about why I won't FI another NA car. Upgrading FI on an OEM FI car is one thing but on a stock NA it's a whole different animal.
I would like to see 350RWHP (that's over 400 at the crank) naturally aspirated out a 370. The cosworth build did involve a stroker kit to 3.7 I believe. The stock head has great potential. So here is what I think will do it: -CAI -Header Back Exhaust (although when looking a the stock headers I think they are going to be tough to beat) -Injectors -Ingnition (HKS DLI) -Underdrive Pulleys ( I hate using these but NA it should be ok) -Aggresive tune taking full advantage of VVEL On this car 350RWHP will be incredible to drive. Match that with the longevity you are sure to have without boost and you have a streetable, reliable, monster.
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The way I see it is if you're going to break your warranty, you might as well do it for more power. Oh and as far as longevity goes, low boost is your best friend. At 5-6 psi, your car will last longer than you will own it. Anyway, I'm done. It's all in what you want to do and there is no right or wrong. Just opinions. I just hate how some of you folks blast people about things and try to make them feel like a fool. Hell, it is almost as bad as my350z at times. Last edited by G&M Performance; 02-23-2009 at 02:00 PM. |
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Ninjaman...I too have some substantial experience building, and destroying cars over the last 8 years. And one factor that remains constant is "boost fever". When it is so easy to increase power it's almost impossible to resist the urge to do so. This, ultimately, is what results in blown motors. More so than generic mechanical failure at least. Have you met a single motor-head that could resist cranking it up, if even only one time? I haven't, to include myself.
You will not convince me that ANY turbo setup will last longer or be as maintenance free on a 370 than the simple mods I listed above. I don't care how well the work is done, or how well the motor is tuned, all things being equal the NA setup lasts longer. Sure I would love to have a 370ZTT, but I would only consider this if I had something else to drive when it does break.
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You're reading into what I was saying far too much - the short point is that, from my side of the fence, I plan on modding with the purpose to race the car at a track. If you want to mod it to have some ridiculous amount of horsepower, have at it I guess. But I see that on par with getting chrome 24's on a Hummer - a vehicle that'll never do what its designed to do. Sounds like you did a little street racing with your SRT-4 and I hit a nerve, to be perfectly honest. I never said I was innocent, myself. But after a couple eye-opening incidents, never again. |
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For those who have been around the VQ community, my guess will be no. And if it ever was possible, get ready to spend over 10k in a full NA engine build. Not worth it...
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Ditch the 370Z and get the 380RS-C.
VQ38HR with 395 HP and 310 lb-ft torque, and it uses Motec engine management. $250k... not street legal, of course.
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You know how we have the '08 NISMO Z with the nice suspension upgrades and funky body kit? In Japan, it's the 380RS. It is everything out NISMO Z is, but there's a 3.8L HR engine in it pushing 350 PS. There is a competition version that is gutted out with a race built version of the 3.8L HR tuned and controlled with Motec gear.
Google... and drool.
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Um it's called the 380RS but it still has the 3.5L VQ35HR. Says so in the first video on google and also on the Nissan spec sheet.
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