Clutch Release Methods

TreeSemdyZee · 07-12-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorrow

I wasn't going to admit it...but I have stalled my Z once since I got it...first in line at the stop light...behind a dude on a Harley...ugly picture

That might be an interesting thread...unless it is already posted somewhere...how many have stalled their Z's and how often has it happened...
Did you hear that Waga Waga...it has happened to many of us...maybe all of us.

I stalled my 350 AND my 370 on the test drives and I've been driving stick for 30 years.

steveg78 · 07-12-2010, 10:42 PM

Good info in this thread. I think one of the other things to keep in mind is when people say it just takes time I think it includes learning the throttle response of the 370. I had manuals before but after a 7yr hiatus I felt like I was starting all over again when I got my 370. I knew the fundamentals and found the sweet spot pretty fast. But learning how much gas to give and being able to retain the muscle memory in your right leg so that you could apply the correct amount of gas took time. You just gotta keep driving and paying attention to what you're doing. If you are simply driving around buckin' n stallin' and not understanding what you're doing wrong then it's going to take you longer to get it right. Have fun!

WAGAWAGA · 07-13-2010, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

In the OP's defense...I see that he lives in Riverside. I don't doubt that his leg gets tired!!! I do everything I can to stay away from the freeways in Riverside because it doesn't matter what time of the day it is or what direction you're traveling, the freeways are just stop and go the whole way!

To the OP- Everyone's driving style is different and there is no right or wrong way. If you have found a method that works for you then stick with it!

Ahha thx Kyle i actually go to school in Riverside but live in LA

. I play competitive Golf so I actually have a pretty built lower body, but i guess im not just used to the clutch motion. Hopefully with practice everything will make sense to me.

LunaZ · 07-13-2010, 08:13 AM

I was thinking of swapping out my manual clutch for an AT just like I did in my Miata.

elmz · 07-13-2010, 12:37 PM

I used to plant my heel on the floor, but when I got a 350Z the clutch was too heavy to do that. And now that I got a 370(which has a lighter clutch) I find I cannot go back to planting my heel. You should experiment and find what works best for you. But I find launching the car is easier with the heel planted.

jayl · 07-13-2010, 01:55 PM

i dont plant my heel.. however i have stalled a few times mainly when I am nervous or think someone is too close behind me... I have had the car about a month now... learned to drive a stick last year on my wife's car... dont stall her Jetta anymore...
hopefully soon I will feel as comfy with the z.

data recovery · 07-14-2010, 08:51 AM

Hello,
I read your post. I want to express some words. The first stage in a full 'heel and toe' gear change is the simple use of double clutching.
Thanks
Addie
Recover data

m4a1mustang · 07-14-2010, 08:58 AM

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Jeffblue · 07-14-2010, 09:48 AM

my heel is off the ground when i press the clutch in. When i release the pedal, like shifting from n-1, my whole leg moves up until a tiny bit before the friction point and then i plant my heel and use my ankle for the rest, i feel like i have more control that way. As far as i know, its ok to ride the clutch for a second or 2 while you engage 1st or second gear to get a smooth shift. The clutch isn't just this ON/OFF Switch, it has a middle ground for a reason. If you treat it like an on/off switch you won't be able to drive smoothly. Yes, when you are flooring your car, press and release quickly, but for regular every day driving, you can still use some finesse. once you have your motion down, you can do it quickly, but smoothly. I think the best advise that helped me was that its OK to ride the clutch for a second when engaging the lower gears. It will make you not have that fear of burning up your clutch if its not totally in or out.

christian370z · 07-25-2010, 03:28 PM

Awesome information, I just read through this whole thread and it made a huge difference in the car. I am finally getting the 1 -> 2 shift smoothed out as it was the hardest part. Other than that, my own advice as a beginner for a beginner is to take your time and not to feel rushed and in time, it becomes second nature.

Big thing is just to get out and drive which is what I have been trying to do, not that I am looking for an excuse with the Z!

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07-12-2010, 10:42 PM	#47 (permalink)
steveg78 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MD Posts: 569 Drives: 09 370Z PG M6 +Sport Rep Power: 17	Good info in this thread. I think one of the other things to keep in mind is when people say it just takes time I think it includes learning the throttle response of the 370. I had manuals before but after a 7yr hiatus I felt like I was starting all over again when I got my 370. I knew the fundamentals and found the sweet spot pretty fast. But learning how much gas to give and being able to retain the muscle memory in your right leg so that you could apply the correct amount of gas took time. You just gotta keep driving and paying attention to what you're doing. If you are simply driving around buckin' n stallin' and not understanding what you're doing wrong then it's going to take you longer to get it right. Have fun!

07-13-2010, 12:37 PM	#50 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	I used to plant my heel on the floor, but when I got a 350Z the clutch was too heavy to do that. And now that I got a 370(which has a lighter clutch) I find I cannot go back to planting my heel. You should experiment and find what works best for you. But I find launching the car is easier with the heel planted.

07-13-2010, 01:55 PM	#51 (permalink)
jayl Track Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: md Posts: 813 Drives: 09 370z base MT Rep Power: 16	i dont plant my heel.. however i have stalled a few times mainly when I am nervous or think someone is too close behind me... I have had the car about a month now... learned to drive a stick last year on my wife's car... dont stall her Jetta anymore... hopefully soon I will feel as comfy with the z.

07-14-2010, 08:51 AM	#52 (permalink)
data recovery Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: US Posts: 1 Drives: 2000 vx red M5 Rep Power: 15	Hello, I read your post. I want to express some words. The first stage in a full 'heel and toe' gear change is the simple use of double clutching. Thanks Addie Recover data

07-14-2010, 09:48 AM	#54 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	my heel is off the ground when i press the clutch in. When i release the pedal, like shifting from n-1, my whole leg moves up until a tiny bit before the friction point and then i plant my heel and use my ankle for the rest, i feel like i have more control that way. As far as i know, its ok to ride the clutch for a second or 2 while you engage 1st or second gear to get a smooth shift. The clutch isn't just this ON/OFF Switch, it has a middle ground for a reason. If you treat it like an on/off switch you won't be able to drive smoothly. Yes, when you are flooring your car, press and release quickly, but for regular every day driving, you can still use some finesse. once you have your motion down, you can do it quickly, but smoothly. I think the best advise that helped me was that its OK to ride the clutch for a second when engaging the lower gears. It will make you not have that fear of burning up your clutch if its not totally in or out.

07-25-2010, 03:28 PM	#55 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	Awesome information, I just read through this whole thread and it made a huge difference in the car. I am finally getting the 1 -> 2 shift smoothed out as it was the hardest part. Other than that, my own advice as a beginner for a beginner is to take your time and not to feel rushed and in time, it becomes second nature. Big thing is just to get out and drive which is what I have been trying to do, not that I am looking for an excuse with the Z!