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370z TT 06-30-2010 10:54 AM

Engine swap
 
I've been looking at options for turbocharging the 370z, but I would need to get a whole new engine block for the power levels I want to achieve. On the gtm website it says that a 4.5 liter stroker engine would be needed for 700rwhp and I was thinking why not just put a different engine that would be cheaper to modify. Would there be any good engine to fit in there and I am thinking V8 or a more race ready engine like an rb26dett. Would this also solve cooling issues?

Valentino 06-30-2010 01:41 PM

Vr38dett.
 
Vr38dett.
http://corism.221616.com/articles/00...0000000000.jpg

VR38DETT – 3.8-liter twin-turbocharged 24-valve V6;
each engine hand-crafted by its own master technician in a clean-room environment.
  • Horsepower – 485 horsepower @ 6,400 rpm
  • Torque – 434 lb-ft of torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm
  • Cylinder bore x stroke – 95.5 x 88.4 mm
  • Compression ratio – 9.0:1
  • Engine speed – 7,000 rpm
  • Emissions – 50 State LEV2/ULEV
Double overhead camshafts (DOHC) with Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS) on intake valves.
Aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
Aluminum pistons.
Nissan Direct Ignition System.
Iridium-tipped spark plugs.
Electronic drive-by-wire throttle.
Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling and magnesium oil sump.

The motor weighs 608 lb (276 kg). This is the full engine with the first set of catalytic converters/turbo outlet pipes attached.
This engine is capable of making over 600HP stock.

Price: Lowest i found was $10,000 , and it goes up to $35,000.

Edit: just found one for $7500 OBO

Kyle@STILLEN 06-30-2010 03:49 PM

What kind of power do you want to make?

theDreamer 06-30-2010 03:52 PM

My engine swap would be the new VK56VD. :tup:

FuszNissan 06-30-2010 03:54 PM

Just slap a Super charger on

theDreamer 06-30-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 600442)
Just slap a Super charger on

To easy. :tiphat:

Chris@FsP 06-30-2010 04:16 PM

Why do you need a stroker kit for 700whp? You can build up your existing 3.7L bottom end and achieve 700whp with the right turbos.

cptspeed 06-30-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370z TT (Post 599966)
I've been looking at options for turbocharging the 370z, but I would need to get a whole new engine block for the power levels I want to achieve. On the gtm website it says that a 4.5 liter stroker engine would be needed for 700rwhp and I was thinking why not just put a different engine that would be cheaper to modify. Would there be any good engine to fit in there and I am thinking V8 or a more race ready engine like an rb26dett. Would this also solve cooling issues?

I too have been wanting more power. I would like to go FI but am worried about longevity issues and wondering why you don't see more people strengthening the bottom end. It seems it would be cheaper to do swap with an engine that already has 450 to 500 hp than it would be to FI the VQ and hope for the best.

cptspeed 06-30-2010 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentino (Post 600224)
Vr38dett.
http://corism.221616.com/articles/00...0000000000.jpg

VR38DETT – 3.8-liter twin-turbocharged 24-valve V6;
each engine hand-crafted by its own master technician in a clean-room environment.
  • Horsepower – 485 horsepower @ 6,400 rpm
  • Torque – 434 lb-ft of torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm
  • Cylinder bore x stroke – 95.5 x 88.4 mm
  • Compression ratio – 9.0:1
  • Engine speed – 7,000 rpm
  • Emissions – 50 State LEV2/ULEV
Double overhead camshafts (DOHC) with Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS) on intake valves.
Aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
Aluminum pistons.
Nissan Direct Ignition System.
Iridium-tipped spark plugs.
Electronic drive-by-wire throttle.
Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling and magnesium oil sump.

The motor weighs 608 lb (276 kg). This is the full engine with the first set of catalytic converters/turbo outlet pipes attached.
This engine is capable of making over 600HP stock.

Price: Lowest i found was $10,000 , and it goes up to $35,000.

Edit: just found one for $7500 OBO

Will it fit?

Valentino 06-30-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 600559)
Will it fit?

Don't know.

"when there is a will, there is a way"

BGTV8 06-30-2010 05:25 PM

Why spend another $40-grand or more modding the 370Z - just go buy an R35 ............ professional engineers have already solved all the problems - unless of course you want to throw your hard-earned at a shop that will already be salivating at the amount of money they can gouge out of you !!

cptspeed 06-30-2010 05:28 PM

Its the sleeper factor.

Jeffblue 06-30-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 600599)
Why spend another $40-grand or more modding the 370Z - just go buy an R35 ............ professional engineers have already solved all the problems - unless of course you want to throw your hard-earned at a shop that will already be salivating at the amount of money they can gouge out of you !!

same reason why its fun to build a GTR that can burn a bugati veryron. Its fun to build a car that is faster than cars that should be faster than it.

theDreamer 06-30-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 600552)
I too have been wanting more power. I would like to go FI but am worried about longevity issues and wondering why you don't see more people strengthening the bottom end. It seems it would be cheaper to do swap with an engine that already has 450 to 500 hp than it would be to FI the VQ and hope for the best.

Well the 3.7L is "newer" and people are going to throw forced induction on first, slowly build up the boost and find the limits of this engine and then start building it out. I would love to build the motor and TT/SC, but one thing at a time.

bullitt5897 06-30-2010 06:16 PM

370z TT pay close attention to my build in the FI thread since I am the first to build the motor and TT. Expect to pay $13k+ for just the motor alone if your going the same route as me. Feel free to ask questions in my thread as well and Sam can answer ur questions.


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