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Originally Posted by FPenvy wait..........people allow the AT to shift for them? i guess i am using mine incorrectly. yea your car is incorrect Originally Posted by Haboob You like

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Old 02-26-2016, 09:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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wait..........people allow the AT to shift for them?

i guess i am using mine incorrectly.
yea your car is incorrect

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You like to leave the D in too?

It feels so good.



Though, I like to finger the paddles too sometimes, so I take the D out.
that's how babies are made if you don't pull out.

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I'm talking about the delay from when you demand a shift to a lower gear (click the paddle) to when it actually does it.
uh really? you know it's sort of slow (even with SRM) to downshift in manual's... like maybe 0.5 seconds. a lot of the newer paddle shift cars can do that in half the time.

maybe you need to tune your car and not have throttled gas input
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that's how babies are made if you don't pull out.



uh really? you know it's sort of slow (even with SRM) to downshift in manual's... like maybe 0.5 seconds. a lot of the newer paddle shift cars can do that in half the time.

maybe you need to tune your car and not have throttled gas input
Not if there's nothing to seed.


Though, I just play with my stick now. Tight leather grip. Six gears, three pedals.

It's fun.
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I know auto vs manual both have their pros and cons. An auto is faster, Yes.
I personally get bored driving an automatic to the point where id rather have someone drive me around. I feel more involved and focused with a manual, its personal and gratifying. id rather battle up hill traffic in the city with a manual any day over a auto. just saying from working 6 years in the city driving different cars/truck with manual trannys
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I know auto vs manual both have their pros and cons. An auto is faster, Yes.
I personally get bored driving an automatic to the point where id rather have someone drive me around. I feel more involved and focused with a manual, its personal and gratifying. id rather battle up hill traffic in the city with a manual any day over a auto. just saying from working 6 years in the city driving different cars/truck with manual trannys






You nailed it...........That is what it is all about ! That is why you drive A SPORTS CAR !

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I know auto vs manual both have their pros and cons. An auto is faster, Yes.
I personally get bored driving an automatic to the point where id rather have someone drive me around. I feel more involved and focused with a manual, its personal and gratifying. id rather battle up hill traffic in the city with a manual any day over a auto. just saying from working 6 years in the city driving different cars/truck with manual trannys






You nailed it...........That is what it is all about ! That is why you drive A SPORTS CAR !
Uh... but... https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...anual-ferrari/

That was some time ago. Unless something changed that I missed, three pedals are officially now less likely to be found in a "true" or "pure" sports car.

See further Alpha 4C, Lamborghini, the GT-R and so on.

Porsche did a limited release "purists" 911 I seem to recall...

I'll forgo revisiting in detail an observation I made some time ago that "perceived manual-ness" was seemingly more important than actual mechanical design, resultant performance, or actual (vs. perceived) control.
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Uh... but... https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...anual-ferrari/

That was some time ago. Unless something changed that I missed, three pedals are officially now less likely to be found in a "true" or "pure" sports car.

See further Alpha 4C, Lamborghini, the GT-R and so on.

Porsche did a limited release "purists" 911 I seem to recall...

I'll forgo revisiting in detail an observation I made some time ago that "perceived manual-ness" was seemingly more important than actual mechanical design, resultant performance, or actual (vs. perceived) control.
Yes but those cars are still manuals. They have something a 370z automatic does not, and are missing something that a 370z automatic does have. That makes all the difference.

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Yes but those cars are still manuals. They have something a 370z automatic does not, and are missing something that a 370z automatic does have. That makes all the difference.

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And that would be...?

A solid connection to the axle? Yes, the Z has full lockup after 2nd gear.

A Veloceter has a dual-clutch trans, and it is slow to change gears and performs poorly.

I guess I did need to revisit my "perceived manual-ness" point a bit after all...

Let's look at this another way: All "real" sports cars will soon be gone, except for older models.

So, either your view on this will change, you will stop buying new sports cars, because of their lack of purity, and/or you will eventually baffle and annoy your kids or grandkids about why their lame (but likely very fast and less polluting) cars sorely need an extra pedal to matter.

If Jeremy Clarkson, commentator, car aficionado, and all around nob could learn to stop complaining bout "flappy paddles", then anyone can...
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