[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

FPenvy · 11-05-2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Yes sir!

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very nice!

my question is though if it's capable as is to handle 1000whp why did you need the FI flex plate? does the tranny build not include a new one?

i'm just curious in the case that I need a tranny or go boost obviously I would need a built tranny. already called level10 months ago talking numbers and whatnot before anyone got one done yet I never asked about the flex plate lol

JARblue · 11-05-2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Driving a stick isn't hard its just slower. I don't think I know anyone that can't drive one.

No one ever said it was hard

In fact ... that is one of the main reasons to rip on someone who can't drive a stick

If you don't know anyone that can't drive stick, you apparently are not familiar with 93% of the US population. I call

D.Stillwell · 11-05-2015, 10:06 AM

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If you don't know anyone that can't drive stick, you apparently are not familiar with 93% of the US population. I call

True. I think this largely relates to age also. Anyone born past the 80's probably knows nothing of a manual tranny.

I think that 93% stat is confusing current MT drivers vs non-drivers who still know. Most people over 35-40yo these days have driven an MT at least once in their life but most people just dont drive MT these days.

Driving an MT is quite the novelty nowadays.

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JWillis72 · 11-05-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

very nice!

my question is though if it's capable as is to handle 1000whp why did you need the FI flex plate? does the tranny build not include a new one?

i'm just curious in the case that I need a tranny or go boost obviously I would need a built tranny. already called level10 months ago talking numbers and whatnot before anyone got one done yet I never asked about the flex plate lol

Level 10 doesn't make a Flex plate and they are known to brake them because they shift so hard. F.I. just got the first batch of these last week. I didn't want to have to slow the shifts down to protect the flex plate and this thing should be able to take all I can give it.

FPenvy · 11-05-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Level 10 doesn't make a Flex plate and they are known to brake them because they shift so hard. F.I. just got the first batch of these last week. I didn't want to have to slow the shifts down to protect the flex plate and this thing should be able to take all I can give it.

ooooh I know lol I got messages that the flex plates were in for FI and I may be getting one when spring rolls around.

car is going into hibernation very soon so no need right now.

JWillis72 · 11-05-2015, 10:12 AM

I bet a lot more people than you think know how to drive a stick and just chose not to. There are 12 people at my office and one person that is 22 said he hasn't. Of that same group one guy owns a stick but it's not his DD, it's a mud Jeep.

JARblue · 11-05-2015, 10:12 AM

That FI flex plate is such sex

I can't use one on my car, but I'd mount one on the wall in my garage

JARblue · 11-05-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I bet a lot more people than you think know how to drive a stick and just chose not to. There are 12 people at my office and one person that is 22 said he hasn't. Of that same group one guy owns a stick but it's not his DD, it's a mud Jeep.

Fair enough. The 93% number is definitely inflated. As mentioned in an earlier post, it's probably just the percentage of ATs that are bought these days.

I still know dozens of people that have no clue how to drive a stick. And judging by how the other drivers on the road handle their ATs, I can't imagine most of them don't have any clue how to drive a stick either

FPenvy · 11-05-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

That FI flex plate is such sex

I can't use one on my car, but I'd mount one on the wall in my garage

its a pricey piece of art

then again I typically have my FI CF mufflers hanging on my wall

JARblue · 11-05-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

its a pricey piece of art

Good art always is

Tigger · 11-05-2015, 10:48 AM

Porsche and customers alike love the PDK becuase... why not drive a fast car faster? That's great for the track and all but on the street? Meh. Sometimes a manual can be a small pain in my ***. Kinda like when you wake up thinking Presto put his finger in your *** but soon discover it isn't his finger and he's resting his chin on your shoulder giving it his all and you're like... dude. it is 3am. Go play halo or something.

FPenvy · 11-05-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

Porsche and customers alike love the PDK becuase... why not drive a fast car faster? That's great for the track and all but on the street? Meh. Sometimes a manual can be a small pain in my ***. Kinda like when you wake up thinking Presto put his finger in your *** but soon discover it isn't his finger and he's resting his chin on your shoulder giving it his all and you're like... dude. it is 3am. Go play halo or something.

you sound like the wifey

N1SMOZ · 11-05-2015, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell

^^ Traffic is a really poor excuse not to drive MT, if ond feels lazy and wants to lay back in comfort while driving....go drive a 4 door auto like 99% of the populace these days. Sports cars should be fun and made for driving, not lounging in comfort in an A to B people mover.

And I say that being stuck in VA/MD traffic on i495 daily with 6MT.

I leave my car running everywhere I go too, knowing nobody will take it since like 2 people still know how to drive standard.

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Exactly. Like I said, traffic being an excuse for not driving manual is a really poor excuse.

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JWillis72 · 11-05-2015, 07:41 PM

I would rather drive an auto in traffic and I also want the faster shifting at the track. Thats not an excuse, there's is just no advantage to driving a stick to me these days. I've had a 240Z that was a stick and a Talon TSI but autos were not worth anything back then, its called progress.

N1SMOZ · 11-05-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I would rather drive an auto in traffic and I also want the faster shifting at the track. Thats not an excuse, there's is just no advantage to driving a stick to me these days. I've had a 240Z that was a stick and a Talon TSI but autos were not worth anything back then, its called progress.

It's called preference. I prefer driving stick because to me, and most others, it's the fun factor that counts. Driving auto is more practical, you have that. But most people use traffic as an excuse but hey, to each their own.

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11-05-2015, 10:12 AM	#1642 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	That FI flex plate is such sex I can't use one on my car, but I'd mount one on the wall in my garage FPenvy and JWillis72 like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

11-05-2015, 10:48 AM	#1646 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 602	Porsche and customers alike love the PDK becuase... why not drive a fast car faster? That's great for the track and all but on the street? Meh. Sometimes a manual can be a small pain in my *. Kinda like when you wake up thinking Presto put his finger in your * but soon discover it isn't his finger and he's resting his chin on your shoulder giving it his all and you're like... dude. it is 3am. Go play halo or something. JARblue and FPenvy like this.

11-05-2015, 07:41 PM	#1649 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I would rather drive an auto in traffic and I also want the faster shifting at the track. Thats not an excuse, there's is just no advantage to driving a stick to me these days. I've had a 240Z that was a stick and a Talon TSI but autos were not worth anything back then, its called progress. FPenvy and Memphis370Z like this.

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11-05-2015, 10:12 AM	#1641 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I bet a lot more people than you think know how to drive a stick and just chose not to. There are 12 people at my office and one person that is 22 said he hasn't. Of that same group one guy owns a stick but it's not his DD, it's a mud Jeep.