[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[D.Stillwell]

^^ lol

I'll just say this, regardless of how good the autos are nowadays...Every single car purist always picks manual...even Porsche (which you mentioned) said they will keep offering cars with manual only for the true enthusiast drivers out there...

Only thing an auto might be better for is SLIGHTLY faster straight line acceleration...nothing else, and it takes no skill to mash the gas pedal or push a paddle to shift..

I say that owning a 4AT Maxima with TransGo shift kit, so I'm not hating.

It's kind of like the dudes driving AWD Subie STI's thinking they can drive good and handle...but get into a proper RWD car and crash. And also get taken by any Z with proper driver in both straight line or esp. in the twisties.

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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by D.Stillwell

^^ lol

I'll just say this, regardless of how good the autos are nowadays...Every single car purist always picks manual...even Porsche (which you mentioned) said they will keep offering cars with manual only for the true enthusiast drivers out there...

Only thing an auto might be better for is SLIGHTLY faster straight line acceleration...nothing else, and it takes no skill to mash the gas pedal or push a paddle to shift..

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the auto still does well in twisties not just the straight line portion. just fyi lol

[abm89]

The difference in shift time between an automatic and a manual won't matter on a circuit.

Also using a manual successfully on a track is far more rewarding that pulling some plastic paddles. All of our fastest Z times on our local track are set by 6MT at the moment.

[FPenvy]

i love how the MT defense is always "the feeling is more rewarding playing with my little stick"

yea well going full blast grabbing paddles feels great (and much safer) than you fondling a stick.

and my success rate in shifting in the AT is 100% bitches lol

[warpeacelove]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

to counter that i would say they all should offer auto. cayman GT4 had my interest until i read they left their amazing PDK tranny on the shelf for it.

mustang GT350(R) should have a strong auto maybe even DCT option but it's ford soooo that's a given.

manual isn't always better. i feel people just cant/wont admit that its outdated tech.

Folks who love they Manual let them have it but don't hate on "US" AT guys. After all we spank manuals all day. Records books shows it. If the manual guys likes to shift that's cool but to each its own.

[abm89]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

i love how the MT defense is always "the feeling is more rewarding playing with my little stick"

yea well going full blast grabbing paddles feels great (and much safer) than you fondling a stick.

and my success rate in shifting in the AT is 100% bitches lol

Well if you want to put this to the test we can arrange a track session for you to back up your impressive confidence.

I know we're hosting a Z only track day later this year. if you can beat my times, i'll gladly leave this forum. Hell, I'll even keep my used RE-11s on my tiny little "bitch 18s" that you referred to in another thread.

[warpeacelove]

Originally Posted by abm89

The difference in shift time between an automatic and a manual won't matter on a circuit.

Also using a manual successfully on a track is far more rewarding that pulling some plastic paddles. All of our fastest Z times on our local track are set by 6MT at the moment.

Lies!!!!!

Furthermore key word your track. And like I aforementioned before equip both Z's (Auto/Manual) with the same power lets see who will have the fastest time and who will win.....

10.91 370z (7 AT) Fast Intentions. *World Record. Trap Speed 130MPH

[kenchan]

wtf is this thread..

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by abm89

Well if you want to put this to the test we can arrange a track session for you to back up impressive confidence.

I know we're hosting a Z only track day later this year. if you can beat my times, i'll gladly leave this forum. Hell, I'll even keep my used RE-11s on my tiny little "bitch 18s" that you referred to in another thread.

yea let me drive 20 hours to texas to do that. good try

it's not worth my time nor money to do that

[burntz]

Having had a 6MT 350z for 10.5 years then going to the 7AT for the 370z:

Paddle shifters=fun

But for routine commute I mostly drive left handed so upshifting is a hassle...

The problem with spirited 7AT driving is late braking for a corner and being sure you've downshifted from 5th to 2nd keeping an eye on the apex and not having to look down at the read out to be sure the computer let you do what you think you did.
What I need is for (should I patent this thought?) the automatic to have a manual mode SHIFT pattern, a drive by wire shifter to go with the d-by- wire throttle!

Come on aftermarket!!

[D.Stillwell]

^^ 100% because you're not shifting...the computer is...

In a 6MT, its YOU actually shifting, mechanically, not thru a torque converter.

And as for the twisties, hell no the auto has ZERO advantage over 6MT around turns. I only mentioned areas where 7AT may be better, and straight line acceleration is the only one. Other areas there is zero advantage to an auto..

Straight line drags and muscle car races are for autos, real track driving around turns is for 6MT.

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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by burntz

Having had a 6MT 350z for 10.5 years then going to the 7AT for the 370z:

Paddle shifters=fun

But for routine commute I mostly drive left handed so upshifting is a hassle...

The problem with spirited 7AT driving is late braking for a corner and being sure you've downshifted from 5th to 2nd keeping an eye on the apex and not having to look down at the read out to be sure the computer let you do what you think you did.
What I need is for (should I patent this thought?) the automatic to have a manual mode SHIFT pattern, a drive by wire shifter to go with the d-by- wire throttle!

Come on aftermarket!!

just quick glance at the gear your in and count the downshift pulls.

see 5 pull 3 times. done.

[MagmaRed370z]

AT guys don't have to deal with shitty CSC issues.

[abm89]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

yea let me drive 20 hours to texas to do that. good try

it's not worth my time nor money to do that

Oil prices are down, i think you'll be okay. Besides, don't you want to test that insane 324rwhp against our slow *** cars?

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by abm89

Oil prices are down, i think you'll be okay. Besides, don't you want to test that insane 324rwhp against our slow *** cars?

i would love to run with you but again it's not worth my time to make that drive just to do some laps with you and go home.

taunt and jab if you want but you know you it's stupid.