[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HEK

funny thing is that when you go to you tube and see a video of a someone test driving a car they state"...but unfortunately we were given an AT to test dive"...

...wonder why would they say that

just so they sound cool and keep the MT guys watching their vids. typically that comment is later followed by "wow this AT is really good!"

ever watch a GT-R video and hear a tester complain? nah lol

GZ3 · 06-12-2015, 09:56 AM

mags only say that because the m6 is more engaging to drive, i dont miss my m6 370 one bit, this auto is allot more fun to me...and that is subjective. Cant argue a subjective thing. But the facts are clear 7AT is faster, at ANY speed..drag, low roll, high roll...anywhere...its just the faster car

Exhaust · 06-12-2015, 10:13 AM

The only reason the AT is better imo is because traffic on 635 in dallas texas is worse than a bag of dicks. A clutch in 1hr-2hr traffic daily is suicide.

jpkirk · 06-12-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

you do realize a 7AT still has the 1/4 mile record right?

just in case you 6mt homos forgot

Ah ... yay ... here we go.

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk

Ah ... yay ... here we go.

hey now someone else revived the thread, jwick (as usual) took it further, and now i'm back

jpkirk · 06-12-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

hey now someone else revived the thread, jwick (as usual) took it further, and now i'm back

Dude, i'm just

at the back and forth from all the 6MT guys that just can't understand the 7AT is faster and all the 7AT guys who can't understand why somebody wants row gears (me), present company excepted of course.

Since I am now just entering the autox world where rumor has it there is typically only one shift anyway, 1st to 2nd, it really doesn't matter. Now it's all about hp and ft lbs ... oh ... yea

... it's about

as well.

I'm just happy to have the Z and be able to have fun with it.

Luciano13 · 06-12-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

whats your point with this?

how does the paddle shifting and aftermarket exhaust matter here?

you seem rusty with your jokes. time to revive the thread I guess lol

Lol have u not ever heard an automatic with a nice exhaust.....??
Kind of takes away the nice once you hear it automatically shift

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk

Dude, i'm just

at the back and forth from all the 6MT guys that just can't understand the 7AT is faster and all the 7AT guys who can't understand why somebody wants row gears (me), present company excepted of course.

Since I am now just entering the autox world where rumor has it there is typically only one shift anyway, 1st to 2nd, it really doesn't matter. Now it's all about hp and ft lbs ... oh ... yea

... it's about

as well.

I'm just happy to have the Z and be able to have fun with it.

the back and forth makes my work days go faster lol

the 7AT is superior but the diehards will never admit it. that's fine too I mean back your beliefs I get it plus it gives me something to do all day lol

as for autox I've seen some say the 7AT cant beat a 6MT whatever. I guess they forget the 7AT has more aggressive gearing down low where we can shoot out of turns faster, shift faster (fro that 1 shift here and there), as well as always having 2 hands on the wheel for the back to back to back tight turns that come with autox.

I know the MT boys don't like facts but if you think that they can argue those few points I now realize they didn't buy MT's to be more engaged.......its because they're idiots

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13

Lol have u not ever heard an automatic with a nice exhaust.....??
Kind of takes away the nice once you hear it automatically shift

how is that even relevant? exhaust sound is exhaust sound.

the fact that there's no long pause between loud and loud because you MT boys suck at rowing gears doesn't change the fact of what is happening.

man, this may be your most asinine comment thus far or just a super poor troll attempt.

you MT boys really need to shake off the rust and come back tomorrow to try again.

darkphantom · 06-12-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

how is that even relevant? exhaust sound is exhaust sound.

the fact that there's no long pause between loud and loud because you MT boys suck at rowing gears doesn't change the fact of what is happening.

man, this may be your most asinine comment thus far or just a super poor troll attempt.

you MT boys really need to shake off the rust and come back tomorrow to try again.

I'm just now jumping into the thread...but have you owned a manual-transmission car? Not just driven, but owned? Just wondering

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

I'm just now jumping into the thread...but have you owned a manual-transmission car? Not just driven, but owned? Just wondering

yes I've owned manuals before. believe I've mentioned it a few times in here.

lol silly new guy

darkphantom · 06-12-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yes I've owned manuals before. believe I've mentioned it a few times in here.

lol silly new guy

lol, I just don't understand all the hate is all. I've driven the new C7 7-speed manual and I would drive that all day! However, if you're SOLELY looking at track times and quarter miles,etc...of course a computer will be faster!

I think the real argument should be based on what you do more and if you enjoy rowing your own gears or would rather just have a cheeseburger in one hand

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

lol, I just don't understand all the hate is all. I've driven the new C7 7-speed manual and I would drive that all day! However, if you're SOLELY looking at track times and quarter miles,etc...of course a computer will be faster!

I think the real argument should be based on what you do more and if you enjoy rowing your own gears or would rather just have a cheeseburger in one hand

it's not hate. re-read some of above comments and see I have said this is to kill time and have fun throughout the day. the hate is just our way of showing love for each other lol

anyways.....the MT is a dinosaur of a tranny and the new AT's and DCT's of today's supercars/sports cars is the way to go. I mean if they weren't superior then why is the MT barely even an option in supercars?

yes rowing gears and messing about is fun but not for long.

GZ3 · 06-12-2015, 11:16 AM

the new autos of today are just as fun as the m6 couterparts. The PDK is seamless in acceleration! its perfection. I got the chance to drive one last week...poetry in motion...the manual was fun too but everyone recognizes autos is THE way. Competitve motorsports is a numbers game and auto delivers above manual. Simple as that...fun is subjective...ive had an m6 370...the auto to me is allot more fun

FPenvy · 06-12-2015, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

the new autos of today are just as fun as the m6 couterparts. The PDK is seamless in acceleration! its perfection. I got the chance to drive one last week...poetry in motion...the manual was fun too but everyone recognizes autos is THE way. Competitve motorsports is a numbers game and auto delivers above manual. Simple as that...fun is subjective...ive had an m6 370...the auto to me is allot more fun

I test drove 3 or 4 (cant remember) 6MT 370's when I was shopping for one. still wasn't sure about it. didn't like the feel of the manual tranny in the Z.

drove one 7AT and bought one the following week.

06-12-2015, 09:56 AM	#1337 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	mags only say that because the m6 is more engaging to drive, i dont miss my m6 370 one bit, this auto is allot more fun to me...and that is subjective. Cant argue a subjective thing. But the facts are clear 7AT is faster, at ANY speed..drag, low roll, high roll...anywhere...its just the faster car FPenvy likes this. __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

06-12-2015, 11:16 AM	#1349 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	the new autos of today are just as fun as the m6 couterparts. The PDK is seamless in acceleration! its perfection. I got the chance to drive one last week...poetry in motion...the manual was fun too but everyone recognizes autos is THE way. Competitve motorsports is a numbers game and auto delivers above manual. Simple as that...fun is subjective...ive had an m6 370...the auto to me is allot more fun __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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06-12-2015, 10:13 AM	#1338 (permalink)
Exhaust Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nowhere Posts: 277 Drives: 2015 AT GM Z Rep Power: 25	The only reason the AT is better imo is because traffic on 635 in dallas texas is worse than a bag of dicks. A clutch in 1hr-2hr traffic daily is suicide.