[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[jwick]

Originally Posted by ayrton88

Who buys a sports car to drag race?

Buy a pony car if you want to just line it up at the light

[ayrton88]

Originally Posted by jwick

Buy a pony car if you want to just line it up at the light

Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by ayrton88

Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

that would be kinda cool to see though

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by Datsun240Z71

Do drag racers dress in drag?

No. You manual homotards do.

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by ayrton88

Who buys a sports car to drag race?

Kinda funny but our little 6 cylinder sports cars do very well out there Especially with the automatics.

Give it a try. You may turn hetro after a few passes.

[Bulletz4break]

"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.

[jwick]

Originally Posted by Bulletz4break

"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.

Sounds like the guys at C&D are real men

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by jwick

Sounds like the guys at C&D are raining men

Fixed it for you!

[Bulletz4break]

Originally Posted by jwick

Sounds like the guys at C&D are real men

No doubt! It actually takes skill to shift a manual transmission smoothly and quickly. I don't need the car to do it for me. Been doing it all my life.

[critical]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

Kinda funny but our little 6 cylinder sports cars do very well out there Especially with the automatics.

Give it a try. You may turn hetro after a few passes.

yeah it's pretty fun. there's nothing that says you can't be fast in the corners and in a straight line.

i've done pretty well against muscle cars in the 1/8th

[Tigger]

BJ in an auto - no problem
BJ in a manual - could spell trouble.

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by ayrton88

Exactly. A sports car is supposed to be all about cornering and agility. Straight line speed is really pretty irrelevant. Look at the great British sports cars, like Triumphs and MGs. They didn't have even 100 HP but were a total blast on the twisties. Buying a sports car to drag race is bringing the wrong tool to the job. How many F1 cars do you see at a drag strip?

How many F1's haul *** in the straights?
Where are the MG's and Triumphs now?
100 hp is still gutless no matter how good the twisties are.
The Z is very competitive quarter mile, auto cross, and track so rethink about the tool. It just may be the tool behind the drivers seat that's holding the Z back.

[Tigger]

"The only nut that needs tightening is the nut behind the wheel." - forget who said it but it is a great quote.

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by Bulletz4break

"Now in its sixth generation, Nissan’s iconic Z is a pleasing package of power and handling. It has one of the best V-6 engines in the business and a six-speed manual transmission with available rev-matching. The automatic, however, is not a willing partner in spirited driving, with slow shifts that detract from the fun." Quote from Car and Driver.

There's more to this...

Originally Posted by C&D

Before we go on, we should note that, back in 2009, we tested a 370Z automatic and we didn’t hate it, calling its manual shifts “lightning-quick” and recording an even quicker zero-to-60 time than we did with the manual. But “lightning-quick” by 2009 standards is less so next to today’s intuitive and instantly responsive dual-clutchers.

From 2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

In other words, personal preferences for a clutch pedal notwithstanding, they're arguing it isn't as quick as a PDK.

Ok...

Similarly, they make reference to the "...hero-making SyncroRev rev-matching technology (which, of course, is defeatable for actual heroes)," indicating that only sopping wet, large labiaed vaginas would ever have the rev match turned on. Of course, those walking menstru-bots would at least secrete more testosterone than anyone with a quintessentially girly automatic.

Also, they claim a 0-60 for the Nismo 7AT of 4.6 (.1 sec faster than the 2009 auto, incidentally), but I didn't see a comparison with the MT, so...

Anyway, my guess is that even if they verified that the 7AT was faster than the 6MT, they would have made the same case in support of the MT because: Engaged; thing in hand; left foot moves. And so on.

[Bulletz4break]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

There's more to this...



From 2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

In other words, personal preferences for a clutch pedal notwithstanding, they're arguing it isn't as quick as a PDK.

Ok...

Similarly, they make reference to the "...hero-making SyncroRev rev-matching technology (which, of course, is defeatable for actual heroes)," indicating that only sopping wet, large labiaed vaginas would ever have the rev match turned on. Of course, those walking menstru-bots would at least secrete more testosterone than anyone with a quintessentially girly automatic.

Also, they claim a 0-60 for the Nismo 7AT of 4.6 (.1 sec faster than the 2009 auto, incidentally), but I didn't see a comparison with the MT, so...

Anyway, my guess is that even if they verified that the 7AT was faster than the 6MT, they would have made the same case in support of the MT because: Engaged; thing in hand; left foot moves. And so on.

I always turn off my SyncroRev, but I also inject 800mg of Testosterone weekly. Only big viginas drive automatic sports cars. Do you automatic guys even LIFT?