[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

I was hoping you didn't remember GTM was really the only VB upgrade right now lol

yea yea ok for slightly less you can hold 500tq in the MT vs AT.

but it's still subpar.

nice try

Damn straight!

Now there's some AT driver logic! MT is better and less expensive, but it is still subpar

Originally Posted by jwick

Haven't bought a TV in over five years so that's good to know. My plasma still looks just as good as any I see at other people's house or the stores.

The only draw back I have on plasma is the pixels age. In another couple of years I'll probably be out of brightness setting

You will be buying an OLED TV next, I can pretty much guarantee it. My LED is nearly 7 years old now, but it was one of the top of the line 240Hz (need for sports) at the time. No reason to upgrade even now. I'll wait until the OLED get a little better and come down in price.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JARblue

nice try

Damn straight!

Now there's some AT driver logic! MT is better and less expensive, but it is still subpar

it's not better. yes it is cheaper for now. we still need to see what tony's parts are going to cost.

could be interesting

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

it's not better. yes it is cheaper for now. we still need to see what tony's parts are going to cost.

could be interesting

lol again with the AT driver logic. How is more power for less money not better?

Also, I should mention I am currently developing an upgrade for the MT internals that allow it to hold 2000 hp and 2000 ft-lb torque. And it only costs $100. Beat that, bitch!

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JARblue

lol again with the AT driver logic. How is more power for less money not better?

Also, I should mention I am currently developing an upgrade for the MT internals that allow it to hold 2000 hp and 2000 ft-lb torque. And it only costs $100. Beat that, bitch!

whatever you're on you better share that's all i'm saying.

puff puff pass

but the money difference could be marginal at best once we see the parts and costs from FI.

and let's say the cost is close/equal and held the same power the AT would still be better. I mean it's better stock and it's better upgraded. FI just set the 370Z WR in the 1/4 mile with a 7AT.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

whatever you're on you better share that's all i'm saying.

puff puff pass

but the money difference could be marginal at best once we see the parts and costs from FI.

and let's say the cost is close/equal and held the same power the AT would still be better. I mean it's better stock and it's better upgraded. FI just set the 370Z WR in the 1/4 mile with a 7AT.

I always share

I'm still wondering what kind of power limits the AT will hit before needing a serious Level10 upgrade vs the power limits the MT will hit before needing internal upgrades. My argument is that the MT limit is much higher (which is why it is better). So either one can get to 500 hp without too much difficulty, but beyond that, you're shelling out serious cash to upgrade the AT vs just choosing a different clutch kit that can handle more power for the MT.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JARblue

I always share

I'm still wondering what kind of power limits the AT will hit before needing a serious Level10 upgrade vs the power limits the MT will hit before needing internal upgrades. My argument is that the MT limit is much higher (which is why it is better). So either one can get to 500 hp without too much difficulty, but beyond that, you're shelling out serious cash to upgrade the AT vs just choosing a different clutch kit that can handle more power for the MT.

I have seen AT's on here pushing 550whp and 450tq no issues.

I now want to find a crashed 370, take the tranny, and stress test it lol

[jwick]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

I have seen AT's on here pushing 550whp and 450tq no issues.



I now want to find a crashed 370, take the tranny, and stress test it lol

Name one