[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[Memphis370Z]

Originally Posted by JARblue

that's not in the spirit of this thread

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!


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[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!

Well that's no fun!

[jpkirk]

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!


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Since when is it ever to old to be antagonistic? I am an old fart getting more antagonistic every day. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you, in the most antagonistic way possible She rocks.

I got the 6MT sport package since I like shifting an MT and that SRM makes it sweet.

As far as I am concerned the AT/MT argument is really personal preference. Most of you guys that think AT is a waste of time have probably never driven one in anger. The fact is, in this day and age AT performance on performance cars have improved to the point that, all other factors being the same (car, age, HP, Torque, driver skill, etc.) the AT will invariably win. It has no care about the type of racing either, road or drag racing. Tech is improving performance across the board so get used to it. And the DCT is just going to get better and better and more available as time marches on. Here watch this video about the Porsche 911 Turbo S ...



OK, not fair you say, $200K car you say. It's where it starts. And that PDK is on the Cayman as well, and it rocks and I'm betting has similar longevity if not exactly the same.

Ok, I'm done.

[Shotta]

Originally Posted by jpkirk

Since when is it ever to old to be antagonistic? I am an old fart getting more antagonistic every day. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you, in the most antagonistic way possible She rocks.

I got the 6MT sport package since I like shifting an MT and that SRM makes it sweet.

As far as I am concerned the AT/MT argument is really personal preference. Most of you guys that think AT is a waste of time have probably never driven one in anger. The fact is, in this day and age AT performance on performance cars have improved to the point that, all other factors being the same (car, age, HP, Torque, driver skill, etc.) the AT will invariably win. It has no care about the type of racing either, road or drag racing. Tech is improving performance across the board so get used to it. And the DCT is just going to get better and better and more available as time marches on. Here watch this video about the Porsche 911 Turbo S ...



OK, not fair you say, $200K car you say. It's where it starts. And that PDK is on the Cayman as well, and it rocks and I'm betting has similar longevity if not exactly the same.


Ok, I'm done.

No doubt technical advancements are great but they aren't necessarily adding to a more exciting experience. The cars that drive themselves around a track, that have automatic steering, automatic brakes, and automatic gas (Audi) can beat any human driver around a road course but what's the fun in that. I guess if you want to sit in the passenger seat sipping a latte while your car does everything automatically then awesome. When we get to that point in the near future with automatic everything then we will all just be passengers in life and drivers won't exist. Just imagine 10 years from now some 16 yr old driver, "steer a car manually, pffff, that's old school"


I absolutely love technology, I work for a robotics company, but when it comes to cars I guess I like the old technology for at least some parts. Old Porsche 911 turbo whale tale, with the old school mt, is one of my dream cars.

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by Shotta

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.

wait.....I thought that's what it was for?

[jpkirk]

Originally Posted by Shotta

No doubt technical advancements are great but they aren't necessarily adding to a more exciting experience. The cars that drive themselves around a track, that have automatic steering, automatic brakes, and automatic gas (Audi) can beat any human driver around a road course but what's the fun in that. I guess if you want to sit in the passenger seat sipping a latte while your car does everything automatically then awesome. When we get to that point in the near future with automatic everything then we will all just be passengers in life and drivers won't exist. Just imagine 10 years from now some 16 yr old driver, "steer a car manually, pffff, that's old school"

I absolutely love technology, I work for a robotics company, but when it comes to cars I guess I like the old technology for at least some parts. Old Porsche 911 turbo whale tale, with the old school mt, is one of my dream cars.

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.

Yup, I totally agree ... you just described "personal experience." You like manual, I like manual with SRM, FP likes AT. We get to choose. Some will want that experience of not having to pay attention, where a car is just a car that gets you from point a to point b. No amount of wheedling will change a preference in personal experience. It's like religion and free will. Frankly, I have no desire to go to war because FP doesn't desire the same personal experience that I want. As long as we can all motor on in what ever fashion we desire, life is good.

So is friendly competition.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by jpkirk

Yup, I totally agree ... you just described "personal experience." You like manual, I like manual with SRM, FP likes AT. We get to choose. Some will want that experience of not having to pay attention, where a car is just a car that gets you from point a to point b. No amount of wheedling will change a preference in personal experience. It's like religion and free will. Frankly, I have no desire to go to war because FP doesn't desire the same personal experience that I want. As long as we can all motor on in what ever fashion we desire, life is good.

So is friendly competition.

work's slow so i'm down for a debate

as for competition let's compare ET's......I mean penis size.

[11Thumper]

I think we've figured this out...

The MT guys can shift well and drag race in a straight line and the AT guys can actually win at a road course with excellent driving skills other than rowing a shifter and pushing a clutch pedal.

BTW, I'm not an AT lover or fan I'm a MT guy (still have my s2k). However, I think the 7AT on the Z is quite nice and better than the 6MT I test drove in 2011 when I was buying. I felt the 7AT fit my needs and I also thought the 6MT felt clunky.

To each their own. As long as you drive a Z you're cool enough for me.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

I think we've figured this out...

The MT guys can shift well and drag race in a straight line and the AT guys can actually win at a road coarse with excellent driving skills other than rowing a shifter and pushing a clutch pedal.

BTW, I'm not an AT lover or fan I'm a MT guy (still have my s2k). However, I think the 7AT on the Z is quite nice and better than the 6MT I test drove in 2011 when I was buying. I felt the 7AT fit my needs and I also thought the 6MT felt clunky.

To each their own. As long as you drive a Z you're cool enough for me.

unless it's stanced.......