[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[JWillis72]

I've never tried but you can get it all kinds of sideways before the yaw sensor kicks in. I assume the 6MT has the yaw sensor also? Can you drift your car without disconnecting it?


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[JWillis72]

I spend way to much on tires to destroy them on purpose.


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[airikrankin]

Im no pro drifter, iv takin in sideways but never experienced it shutting down. Wasnt aware it had a yaw sensor


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[JWillis72]

The 7AT has one for sure and you can't shut it off without wiring a switch in it.


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[JWillis72]

Can you get it way sideways and not feel like the gas kicks off for a second to stop it?


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

auto can shift faster than manual but you are pointing the car and hitting the gas, not really racing. someone with no driving experience would get the same 1/4 mile time. if everyone raced autos it would be car vs car, not driver vs driver

disagree.

auto vs auto would not be the same 1/4 time. comes down to many factors one being launch. the launch determines your ET. also the RPM the driver shifts at will also change the ET as well.

we can get into tires, possible diff upgrade, suspension changes, etc... as well.

[airikrankin]

U could get into tires diff upgrade sudpension etc but again that effects car, not driver skill. Car vs car

Racing auto in a straight line, pointless. Just curious as to why someone would choose auto if they planned on racing it and was able to drive a manual? If its your dd and you drive in traffic i understand. But if its a weekend toy that you use to compete with i would like to know why choose auto? Auto vs man...auto wins, your not going to be able to shift faster than an auto or be nearly consistent. But in the end do you feel that your the reason you won that race? If 2 stock auto 370 z were racing it would come down to reaction time as to who would win, assuming traction control was used as well, so why bother going the whole 1/4? One will never catch the other. Driving back roads or autox im sure the auto is a blast and if you prefer the auto then great! I Just dont see the thrill in drag racing an auto, but i guess i just view things differently everything growing up was a manual, hell our first lawnmower had a clutch! I live in the country, as a little kid driving tractors, atvs, dirtbikes, motorcycles, my first 5 cars were manuals. Only started driving autos once i started driving farther to work. Im 29, i hate to sound old but it saddens me to slowly see the manual go away


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

U could get into tires diff upgrade sudpension etc but again that effects car, not driver skill. Car vs car

Racing auto in a straight line, pointless. Just curious as to why someone would choose auto if they planned on racing it and was able to drive a manual? If its your dd and you drive in traffic i understand. But if its a weekend toy that you use to compete with i would like to know why choose auto? Auto vs man...auto wins, your not going to be able to shift faster than an auto or be nearly consistent. But in the end do you feel that your the reason you won that race? If 2 stock auto 370 z were racing it would come down to reaction time as to who would win, assuming traction control was used as well, so why bother going the whole 1/4? One will never catch the other. Driving back roads or autox im sure the auto is a blast and if you prefer the auto then great! I Just dont see the thrill in drag racing an auto, but i guess i just view things differently everything growing up was a manual, hell our first lawnmower had a clutch! I live in the country, as a little kid driving tractors, atvs, dirtbikes, motorcycles, my first 5 cars were manuals. Only started driving autos once i started driving farther to work. Im 29, i hate to sound old but it saddens me to slowly see the manual go away


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I DD my Z
it's auto
I can drive stick
and I race it.

I also have one of the better 1/4 mile ET's of all the Z's on here with the auto with 2 mods and a tune.

as for the 1/4 mile reaction time doesn't mean anything really. it's the ET that matters. haven't you seen when GT-R's with LC race? most sit there and get the LC up and have a .500 RT.

wait 29 is old now? wtf?!

[JWillis72]

I don't see how doing a 1/4 in 7AT vs 6MT are any different besides pushing a clutch and a longer shift? It still comes down to reaction time, giving it as much power as you can without spinning the tires and shifting at the right time.

[airikrankin]

Didnt say 29 was old, said im 29, hate to sound old

Im not going to change anyones opinion on autos and no one is going to ever convince me to buy an auto. When the day comes that autos are no longer produced, i guess i will no longer buy new cars.


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JWillis72

I don't see how doing a 1/4 in 7AT vs 6MT are any different besides pushing a clutch and a longer shift? It still comes down to reaction time, giving it as much power as you can without spinning the tires and shifting at the right time.

Originally Posted by airikrankin

Didnt say 29 was old, said im 29, hate to sound old

Im not going to change anyones opinion on autos and no one is going to ever convince me to buy an auto. When the day comes that autos are no longer produced, i guess i will no longer buy new cars.


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well it has nothing to do with age it's more about the tech of autos has come far enough where it's making manual obsolete.

when dealing with performance based cars you're trying to get maximum efficiency from the power you have. if a lighting quick shifting transmission is available then why not go that route. quicker shifts = less rpm drop which equals faster lap times. that's what it's all about since every sports car is tested at the ring and shooting for the fastest lap time possible.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

if a lighting quick shifting transmission is available then why not go that route.

Because manual transmission

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JARblue

Because manual transmission

.......I hate you lol


now bite the pillow. i'm comin in dry

[airikrankin]

Just think how much faster you will be once cars start driving themselves


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[11Thumper]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

U could get into tires diff upgrade sudpension etc but again that effects car, not driver skill. Car vs car

Racing auto in a straight line, pointless. Just curious as to why someone would choose auto if they planned on racing it and was able to drive a manual? If its your dd and you drive in traffic i understand. But if its a weekend toy that you use to compete with i would like to know why choose auto? Auto vs man...auto wins, your not going to be able to shift faster than an auto or be nearly consistent. But in the end do you feel that your the reason you won that race? If 2 stock auto 370 z were racing it would come down to reaction time as to who would win, assuming traction control was used as well, so why bother going the whole 1/4? One will never catch the other. Driving back roads or autox im sure the auto is a blast and if you prefer the auto then great! I Just dont see the thrill in drag racing an auto, but i guess i just view things differently everything growing up was a manual, hell our first lawnmower had a clutch! I live in the country, as a little kid driving tractors, atvs, dirtbikes, motorcycles, my first 5 cars were manuals. Only started driving autos once i started driving farther to work. Im 29, i hate to sound old but it saddens me to slowly see the manual go away


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Just my opinion, but racing anything in a straight line seems totally pointless. I don't care what I drive I'm not racing in a straight line. It's just a waste of gas & tires with a risk of getting busted. Sure, there's some driver skill involved but not much IMO. Besides, if measuring manhood I'm ready for the real test.

Racing on a road course is totally different and I agree with what you're saying. I suppose if the car was mainly track then sure, 6MT. But really, how many of us spend more than 20% of our time with the Z on a track? So, if you're going to do mixed driving then nothing wrong with considering the 7AT and honing your cornering skills instead of how to shift a transmission.

Not saying it's superior but...

How many 6MT divers have been caught in horrible traffic and think (or wish for) the 7AT and are scared to admit it? I would venture to say many here have imagined this.

If we're being 100% honest here I'll admit there are times I regret the 7AT because I've always driven MT. My Z is no longer my DD and more of a weekend toy so this makes me feel a bit more strongly this way. I still don't regret my decision enough to do something about it or really care a ton because the 7AT works so well (very, very well in fact). Also, my lady can drive the car if I have a bit too much to drink (usually when she's eager to talk a lot lol) so there is another advantage. Would I trade for a 6MT if it was an even swap? Sure, I probably would actually now that my needs have changed but it's just not too important to me.