[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[11Thumper]

Funny to see people's views here...

Why care so much 6MT vs. 7AT? I've been driving stick since I learned to drive and do it quite well. I'm pretty sure most here who argue so much in favor of the 6MT can't shift as well as the 7AT in reality. Not insulting anyone here, but trying to figure out the whole point of the argument. Just buy what you want and live with it. I have the 7AT and I'm quite happy with it. Sure, it can get boring but in the mountains I don't feel like I'm missing anything over my S2k. I mean really, do you feel THAT much more connected to your car in 90% of your driving to work/the store/movies/etc just because you have the 6MT?

I get it, shifting on your own is cool. If the 7AT wasn't so good I would be totally in favor of the 6MT. However, both are great transmissions so just pick what you want. I personally feel the weakness of the clutch slave cylinder makes the 6MT a headache to begin with since replacing it requires dropping the transmission.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

Why care so much 6MT vs. 7AT? I've been driving stick since I learned to drive and do it quite well. I'm pretty sure most here who argue so much in favor of the 6MT can't shift as well as the 7AT in reality. Not insulting anyone here, but trying to figure out the whole point of the argument...

I get it, shifting on your own is cool. If the 7AT wasn't so good I would be totally in favor of the 6MT. However, both are great transmissions so just pick what you want. I personally feel the weakness of the clutch slave cylinder makes the 6MT a headache to begin with since replacing it requires dropping the transmission.

This guy gets it. Agree 100%. 7AT is better than just about every 370Z MT driver. But get what you want. I solved the clutch pedal and clutch hydraulic system weaknesses by purchasing the RJM pedal assembly and Z1's CSC Elimination Kit (before OEM CSC failed). No more dropping the transmission to fix hydraulic system issues.

The one thing you don't get is the whole point of the argument. Which is ......

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

its Monday i'm still waking up lol

Need some help FPenvy?

[JWillis72]

Has anyone had a 7AT give out on them? When I supercharged the car I expected it to give but after beating on it for over a year it's still rock solid. It always gains on cars when they shift and will spin the wheels into 3rd, it might not be a double clutch but it's better than most give it credit for.


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[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by JARblue

This guy gets it. Agree 100%. 7AT is better than just about every 370Z MT driver. But get what you want. I solved the clutch pedal and clutch hydraulic system weaknesses by purchasing the RJM pedal assembly and Z1's CSC Elimination Kit (before OEM CSC failed). No more dropping the transmission to fix hydraulic system issues.

The one thing you don't get is the whole point of the argument. Which is ......

So you had to modify it to compete with the A/T???

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

Funny to see people's views here...

Why care so much 6MT vs. 7AT? I've been driving stick since I learned to drive and do it quite well. I'm pretty sure most here who argue so much in favor of the 6MT can't shift as well as the 7AT in reality. Not insulting anyone here, but trying to figure out the whole point of the argument. Just buy what you want and live with it. I have the 7AT and I'm quite happy with it. Sure, it can get boring but in the mountains I don't feel like I'm missing anything over my S2k. I mean really, do you feel THAT much more connected to your car in 90% of your driving to work/the store/movies/etc just because you have the 6MT?

I get it, shifting on your own is cool. If the 7AT wasn't so good I would be totally in favor of the 6MT. However, both are great transmissions so just pick what you want. I personally feel the weakness of the clutch slave cylinder makes the 6MT a headache to begin with since replacing it requires dropping the transmission.

Get off the fence homie and pick a side.

[11Thumper]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

Get off the fence homie and pick a side.

I did, based on my needs at the time. Can't you read?

Ok, back to if that's all that matters here.

[NismoNY]

I'll add my .02 here in regards to people saying manual isn't great in traffic. Sure, AT is probably "easier" in traffic, but I've commuted in traffic the past several years in manual transmission cars and I never once wished I had an AT. Truth is if you know how to drive stick properly by leaving enough room between you and the car in front, driving stick in traffic is a breeze and hardly requires a gear change. To that point, driving manual helps foster and promote better driving habits.

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by NismoNY

I'll add my .02 here in regards to people saying manual isn't great in traffic. Sure, AT is probably "easier" in traffic, but I've commuted in traffic the past several years in manual transmission cars and I never once wished I had an AT. Truth is if you know how to drive stick properly by leaving enough room between you and the car in front, driving stick in traffic is a breeze and hardly requires a gear change. To that point, driving manual helps foster and promote better driving habits.

Probably??? Without a doubt an auto is better in traffic.

No argument to be had here on that and thank you for proving an auto is better once again.

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

I did, based on my needs at the time. Can't you read?

Ok, back to if that's all that matters here.

Yup sure can!

[NismoNY]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

Probably??? Without a doubt an auto is better in traffic.

No argument to be had here on that and thank you for proving an auto is better once again.

I see you believe "better" and "easier" can be used interchangeably

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

Need some help FPenvy?

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

So you had to modify it to compete with the A/T???

Yes, I corrected the known weakness in the 6MT system - the clutch pedal and hydraulic system. It cost me a weekend of labor and around $700 total.

Now if you want to upgrade your 7AT to handle more than 285 ft-lb torque, you get to spend $3500+ including core exchange. My 6MT handles much more than that no problem with the new CSC. So I'm not sure what your argument is ...

Originally Posted by Tadpole

Probably??? Without a doubt an auto is better in traffic.

I get better gas mileage and a smoother ride in my MT in traffic than the AT. I also cause less wear and tear on the transmission because I don't shift near as often

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by JARblue

Yes, I corrected the known weakness in the 6MT system - the clutch pedal and hydraulic system. It cost me a weekend of labor and around $700 total.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by FPenvy

Says the guy whose 7AT transmission will blow up with any kind of torque put to it