[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

Chuck33079 · 05-12-2014, 09:31 AM

Um, Lambo and Ferrari "autos" have very little in common with torque convertor autos like Nissan uses. The good ones still have a clutch or two, it's just computer controlled.

Solomatrix · 05-12-2014, 09:33 AM

yay another AT vs MT flamebait thread

Chuck33079 · 05-12-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by happydog

yay another AT vs MT flamebait thread

Yep. It'll either be shut down by noon or rolled into the big 7AT vs 6MT thread where everyone defends whichever one they bought to the death.

Mitco39 · 05-12-2014, 09:55 AM

lol..

Chuck33079 · 05-12-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

lol..

That is fantastic.

Solomatrix · 05-12-2014, 09:58 AM

Solomatrix · 05-12-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

lol..

houkouonchi · 05-12-2014, 10:45 AM

My GT-R is a dual-clutched transmission. It is really more like a manual without a clutch than an automatic. I am really really hard-core manual transmission driver but other than no clutch it drives and has all the control of the manual so I made a compromise. Even if it is slower being manual I do wish they had a manual transmission version but in the end I am pretty happy with it.

kenchan · 05-12-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tonybell_57

I've heard many car enthusiasts, not just Z owners, complain that real sports cars have manual transmissions. So, just out of curiosity, I did a couple of Google searches and found this:

What is the last car Ferrari made with a manual transmission?
The Last Fully Manual Ferrari

What is the last car Lamborghini made with a manual transmission?
Lamborghini Prepares Its Final Manual Transmission Model | The Truth About Cars

So, automotive Luddites

, I bring you the future.

( Click to show/hide )

i dont think you understand.... wat i dont like about AT is its torque converter. electronic clutch AT is pretty cool. but then the roads in my area are mostly straight. fast stable car with AT =

watson853 · 05-12-2014, 10:53 AM

Why all the hate for a torque converter auto that shifts faster than every manual here. I admit I used to hate them but then I drove it and honestly was really impressed.

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kenchan · 05-12-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853

Why all the hate for a torque converter auto that shifts faster than every manual here. I admit I used to hate them but then I drove it and honestly was really impressed.

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because the point isnt about just shifting faster. it's about enjoying the driving experience.

at least the Z's torque converter seems to have a lock-up mechanism for all gears except 1st.

Chuck33079 · 05-12-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853

Why all the hate for a torque converter auto that shifts faster than every manual here. I admit I used to hate them but then I drove it and honestly was really impressed.

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Where is the hate? Most people admit the 7AT is a great transmission. There's just a lot of people who don't want an auto no matter how good it is, especially one with a torque converter. Shift speed means exactly ****.

kenchan · 05-12-2014, 12:39 PM

kinda like if you enjoy music you'd probably play an instrument... even if a computer can play it 10x faster and perfectly each time than you does not mean it's better or more fun.

i like how AT drivers including corolla-s folks are all race car drivers on the street.

Roddy1 · 05-12-2014, 04:12 PM

Whatever floats your boat. Alot of automatics these days shift wayyyy quicker than a manual transmission, but I like having a manual since it is so engaging. A monkey could drive an automatic. Not much talent to just pushing your right foot down and holding onto the steerting wheel.

Up next: Video games where all you have to do is hit start, then then the game just plays for you.

And after that, much like the player piano's of the early 1900's, cars will drive for us and maybe we will be able to get them programed to be driven to a certain style... Maybe a Tanner Faust download...then you just sit back, and get driven to work or the grocery store without having any input. So much FUN

Tazicon · 05-12-2014, 04:30 PM

I do have a PDK in one of my cars..............I really like it. If you think you just press the gas to use one you are sadly mistaken.

05-12-2014, 09:31 AM	#451 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Um, Lambo and Ferrari "autos" have very little in common with torque convertor autos like Nissan uses. The good ones still have a clutch or two, it's just computer controlled. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Solomatrix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: crispy bacon Posts: 3,236 Drives: sizzling bacon Rep Power: 858	yay another AT vs MT flamebait thread DEpointfive0 likes this.

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05-12-2014, 12:39 PM	#463 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	kinda like if you enjoy music you'd probably play an instrument... even if a computer can play it 10x faster and perfectly each time than you does not mean it's better or more fun. i like how AT drivers including corolla-s folks are all race car drivers on the street. SouthArk370Z likes this.

05-12-2014, 04:12 PM	#464 (permalink)
Roddy1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Canada/Cayman Islands Posts: 274 Drives: SRT Viper Rep Power: 11	Whatever floats your boat. Alot of automatics these days shift wayyyy quicker than a manual transmission, but I like having a manual since it is so engaging. A monkey could drive an automatic. Not much talent to just pushing your right foot down and holding onto the steerting wheel. Up next: Video games where all you have to do is hit start, then then the game just plays for you. And after that, much like the player piano's of the early 1900's, cars will drive for us and maybe we will be able to get them programed to be driven to a certain style... Maybe a Tanner Faust download...then you just sit back, and get driven to work or the grocery store without having any input. So much FUN kenchan likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z, 6-Speed Manual, Sport Package. - K&N Drop ins \| Top Speed Axleback \| H&R Spacers SOLD 2009 G8 GT, 6.0L LSX V8, Rotofab Intake, ARH Long tubes, SOLO exhaust, VMS Tune - SOLD Last edited by Roddy1; 05-12-2014 at 04:54 PM.

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Solomatrix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: crispy bacon Posts: 3,236 Drives: sizzling bacon Rep Power: 858

05-12-2014, 10:45 AM	#458 (permalink)
houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 15	My GT-R is a dual-clutched transmission. It is really more like a manual without a clutch than an automatic. I am really really hard-core manual transmission driver but other than no clutch it drives and has all the control of the manual so I made a compromise. Even if it is slower being manual I do wish they had a manual transmission version but in the end I am pretty happy with it.

05-12-2014, 10:53 AM	#460 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 12	Why all the hate for a torque converter auto that shifts faster than every manual here. I admit I used to hate them but then I drove it and honestly was really impressed. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

05-12-2014, 04:30 PM	#465 (permalink)
Tazicon Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 773 Drives: German/British cars Rep Power: 14	I do have a PDK in one of my cars..............I really like it. If you think you just press the gas to use one you are sadly mistaken. __________________ Porsche, it's a 2 syllable word

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