[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[RiCharlie]

Originally Posted by scruffydog

I totally know where you're coming from....etc...

Did not want to repost the entire thing but I did want to say this was a really good post!

[Shadezz]

I'm very content with the 7AT in our new Z!! Paddles are great when needed (mountain driving, & Passing) and since my wife needs and auto we were happy to hear it was a 7speed that has Auto Sync Rev which can still give my wife the true sports car feel. Blip with and auto? Did I say I enjoy it too!!

[shadoquad]

I prefer the extra degree of control that the Manual offers, and I feel that way about every car I drive, but to each their own.

[Alchemy]

Its called a MANual for a reason.

[IDZRVIT]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

I prefer the extra degree of control that the Manual offers, and I feel that way about every car I drive, but to each their own.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by Alchemy

Its called a MANual for a reason.

Yeah it called... "man u all" faster in ya paddle shifted man u matics. "Hey guyz wait for m, I'm jerkin my stick but it won't go as HARD as you guys...

Lmfaoooo

Meaning of suffix matic. Self willing. = Self willing men.

[Pauly]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah it called... "man u all" faster in ya paddle shifted man u matics. "Hey guyz wait for m, I'm jerkin my stick but it won't go as HARD as you guys...

Lmfaoooo

Meaning of suffix matic. Self willing. = Self willing men.

funny!

[DEpointfive0]

Why in God's name would you WANT that feature

EDIT: lol, exactly what you wanted me NOT to do LOL

[XwChriswX]

Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Please, no comments on how ATs don't need shift lights.

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Why in God's name would you WANT that feature

Edit: I put that in specifically for you.

[wstar]

Originally Posted by b15

Perhaps you should get educated. The torque converter 7at functions nothing like a DCT. Yes it shifts faster for a torque converter trans.....but in no way goes about its gear changes like a dct. These 7AT drivers are over sensitive. You guys forgot to mention that its faster (barely) down the 1/4 mile too.

I'm plenty educated! Been driving it for thousands of miles. I understand the mechanical differences, but the bottom line is there's very little practical difference. The 7AT shifts pretty damn fast, fast enough that a 6MT driver following me around the track was envious of the shift times. I'm not being sensitive, but I am defending the transmission. I think most of the naysayers haven't ever given the 7AT an honest shot. It's nothing like other crappy autos you've seen in other cars.

Watch (well, hear) the shift times for yourself: MSRH CCW Jun29 - YouTube

[luigi90210]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

And it starts, manual vs auto for the 500th time.

I'll pour gas on the fire.
The auto shifts faster

well i dont think im pointing out anything outrageous
the point in getting an auto is for comfort and ease when driving, not worrying when to shift, ect.

now if you're shifting the automatic 24/7
why even get the automatic in the first place?
kind of see my point here

nothing against auto owners, different strokes for different folks but i personally just dont see the point in getting an automatic just to shift it like a manual and play pretend all the time(this only applies to people who keep their automatic in M mode 24/7)

Originally Posted by wstar

The 6MT owners just don't like to hear that they're working that clutch for nothing. It's ok, let 'em vent.

what is this work you speak of?
I dont have to work to drive my car around, imo its just as easy as driving an auto plus im not brain dead like 99.99% of every other automatic driver

[Chuck33079]

Dammit, here we go again with the 6mt vs 7at bs.

[wstar]

Originally Posted by luigi90210

well i dont think im pointing out anything outrageous
the point in getting an auto is for comfort and ease when driving, not worrying when to shift, ect.

now if you're shifting the automatic 24/7
why even get the automatic in the first place?
kind of see my point here

nothing against auto owners, different strokes for different folks but i personally just dont see the point in getting an automatic just to shift it like a manual and play pretend all the time(this only applies to people who keep their automatic in M mode 24/7)




what is this work you speak of?
I dont have to work to drive my car around, imo its just as easy as driving an auto

It's really not just as easy. There's a clutch pedal. The point of getting an auto and putting it in M-mode 24/7 is you get the driving benefits of a manual (being able to select the correct gear, which a normal auto in Drive never gets right for performance driving), but you don't have to be a heel-toe wizard to get smooth shifts. SRM on our 6MTs negates the heel-toe thing anyways, but still - why have one more pedal to worry about operating delicately to get the same result?

plus im not brain dead like 99.99% of every other automatic driver

See, it's comments like these that turn this from a friendly debate into a "**** you you're not like me" sort of war.

[wstar]

Here's a better litmus test: if the 370Z came in a DCT version for the same money, would you take it? Some people would still choose the manual because they enjoy working the clutch and like the nostalgia of the skill of driving a manual (in which case I'd assume they turn *off* SRM all the time as well, right?). That's a valid choice, for all the right reasons. But if you'd rather have a DCT than a 6MT, you're missing out by not picking up the 7AT. For all practical purposes, there's just not much difference there. Our torque converter's lockup capabilities are pretty impressive, and the shift times are fast under load. Importantly, it also stays in gear. You can bounce the rev limiter all day if you want. It's not perfect, but it's way good enough.

[Haboob]

Rawr.