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Old 02-27-2015, 01:49 PM   #706 (permalink)
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:51 PM   #707 (permalink)
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No doubt technical advancements are great but they aren't necessarily adding to a more exciting experience. The cars that drive themselves around a track, that have automatic steering, automatic brakes, and automatic gas (Audi) can beat any human driver around a road course but what's the fun in that. I guess if you want to sit in the passenger seat sipping a latte while your car does everything automatically then awesome. When we get to that point in the near future with automatic everything then we will all just be passengers in life and drivers won't exist. Just imagine 10 years from now some 16 yr old driver, "steer a car manually, pffff, that's old school"

I absolutely love technology, I work for a robotics company, but when it comes to cars I guess I like the old technology for at least some parts. Old Porsche 911 turbo whale tale, with the old school mt, is one of my dream cars.

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.
Yup, I totally agree ... you just described "personal experience." You like manual, I like manual with SRM, FP likes AT. We get to choose. Some will want that experience of not having to pay attention, where a car is just a car that gets you from point a to point b. No amount of wheedling will change a preference in personal experience. It's like religion and free will. Frankly, I have no desire to go to war because FP doesn't desire the same personal experience that I want. As long as we can all motor on in what ever fashion we desire, life is good.

So is friendly competition.

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Yup, I totally agree ... you just described "personal experience." You like manual, I like manual with SRM, FP likes AT. We get to choose. Some will want that experience of not having to pay attention, where a car is just a car that gets you from point a to point b. No amount of wheedling will change a preference in personal experience. It's like religion and free will. Frankly, I have no desire to go to war because FP doesn't desire the same personal experience that I want. As long as we can all motor on in what ever fashion we desire, life is good.

So is friendly competition.

work's slow so i'm down for a debate

as for competition let's compare ET's......I mean penis size.
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I think we've figured this out...

The MT guys can shift well and drag race in a straight line and the AT guys can actually win at a road course with excellent driving skills other than rowing a shifter and pushing a clutch pedal.

BTW, I'm not an AT lover or fan I'm a MT guy (still have my s2k). However, I think the 7AT on the Z is quite nice and better than the 6MT I test drove in 2011 when I was buying. I felt the 7AT fit my needs and I also thought the 6MT felt clunky.

To each their own. As long as you drive a Z you're cool enough for me.
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I think we've figured this out...

The MT guys can shift well and drag race in a straight line and the AT guys can actually win at a road coarse with excellent driving skills other than rowing a shifter and pushing a clutch pedal.

BTW, I'm not an AT lover or fan I'm a MT guy (still have my s2k). However, I think the 7AT on the Z is quite nice and better than the 6MT I test drove in 2011 when I was buying. I felt the 7AT fit my needs and I also thought the 6MT felt clunky.

To each their own. As long as you drive a Z you're cool enough for me.
unless it's stanced.......
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Those photos are for auto drivers that like to drag race,lol. Notice no gears and pic came from a drag racing site, typical auto guy stuff
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M/Ts are for those who do not like change and want to remain in the dark ages!

A/Ts are for those who are lazy and cannot drive!!!!



That said, I don't like change, think the dark ages are cool all the while being lazy and wishing I could drive better! How is that for a loaded answer!



All kidding aside, I plan to go 7AT as I have to fiddle with my B Berry a lot when driving. But I may change my mind if I test drive a M/T. While there is only a 5% chance of the MT, there is still a chance!!!!

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Oh lord, IBTC..

This will not turn out well.

My two cents are that the manual is more involved, the automatic isnt bad on the Z though.

I am out of this thread for good, may god be with all who try and defend their opinion in the battleground that will become of this.

34 pages latter. Lol this guy knew what was coming!


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We all did, but you know ... a holes and opinions. I have one of each.
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I wonder how many 6MT drivers know that the 7AT comes with a secret turbo installed...

Happy Friday!
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I wonder how many 6MT drivers know that the 7AT comes with a secret turbo installed...

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I knew that. But I also knew that the AT can't handle the torque, so they had to dial everything back. In the end the AT was at the same power levels as the MT

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