[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[FERRARI]

Originally Posted by rajmangal7

Manual so you can actually feel connected with your car, learn your car, and know more about it. With an auto a computer has to do all the downshifting and upshifting, in a manual you have to do it, rev match and everything or SRM, but point being it helps you learn your car. Learning your car can give better times and make you a better driver

You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by FERRARI

You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

the transmission you have has nothing to do with being a "real driver".

idiots will say this, nothing more.

also for a guy with the screen name "FERRARI" you got balls talking about AT drivers. when was the last time a Ferrari came with an actual manual transmission aside from a very expensive special edition?

[11Thumper]

Originally Posted by FERRARI

You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

I don't easily call people stupid but you're really pushing it.

[MR.nismo]

The whole thing is not about what/who is better. Yes, I'm old school and I rather have my hands busy than having a freehand to pick my nose as I drive. As someone here posted, if everything nowadays comes with auto + paddle shifters, then I'll be buying used and old cars in the not so distant future. The OP was just asking for our insights as to what are our preferences. In theory, no one here is better than the other (cough, cough).
IMO the true essence of a sports cars are:
1- Tachometer dead centered above the steering wheel.
2- Not much interior space but the driver side (and maybe a passenger seat for the mistress).
3- Low center of gravity
4- And a manual transmission that includes a clutch pedal and a shifter stick.
Now, given the new technology and (F1 inspirations) we can find an array of vehicles from super exotics down to the most affordable cars, utilizing this new tech stuff and some of them have proven to be better in some instances where a paddle shifter (teptronic, slapper, semi auto stick) or whatever they call them to be able to set new records at just about any track and even when doing battle against manual transmissions as well.
Most of us know, it all comes down to driver and the vehicle abilities but if paddle shifter/slapper drivers feel better at driving without a real shifter and a clutch lever then... let them be. Meanwhile I'll be having real fun with busy hands and feet while trying to tame the Z demons.

[Tadpole]

Originally Posted by MR.nismo

The whole thing is not about what/who is better. Yes, I'm old school and I rather have my hands busy than having a freehand to pick my nose as I drive. As someone here posted, if everything nowadays comes with auto + paddle shifters, then I'll be buying used and old cars in the not so distant future. The OP was just asking for our insights as to what are our preferences. In theory, no one here is better than the other (cough, cough).
IMO the true essence of a sports cars are:
1- Tachometer dead centered above the steering wheel.
2- Not much interior space but the driver side (and maybe a passenger seat for the mistress).
3- Low center of gravity
4- And a manual transmission that includes a clutch pedal and a shifter stick.
Now, given the new technology and (F1 inspirations) we can find an array of vehicles from super exotics down to the most affordable cars, utilizing this new tech stuff and some of them have proven to be better in some instances where a paddle shifter (teptronic, slapper, semi auto stick) or whatever they call them to be able to set new records at just about any track and even when doing battle against manual transmissions as well.
Most of us know, it all comes down to driver and the vehicle abilities but if paddle shifter/slapper drivers feel better at driving without a real shifter and a clutch lever then... let them be. Meanwhile I'll be having real fun with busy hands and feet while trying to tame the Z demons.

Well said Mr. Nismo but autos are still better.

[FERRARI]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

I don't easily call people stupid but you're really pushing it.

You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......they start calling names.......

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by FERRARI

You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......the start calling names.......

good point......but did you actually read what you posted? absolutely retarded. like forum special Olympic captain retarded.

[11Thumper]

Originally Posted by FERRARI

You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......the start calling names.......

I'm not debating with you so what's your point exactly? Your comments are simply worthless like your profile name Mr. "Ferrari"

Also, I encourage you to seek an education because you clearly don't know how to spell correctly.

[FPenvy]

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[Dragon_Ball_Z]

I mean there are real drivers that drive an automatic too, I never said they couldn't drive. To think auto drivers can't drive is stupidity. Wasn't my intended point earlier


-Raj

[JWillis72]

At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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[ayrton88]

Originally Posted by JWillis72

At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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Looks like I'll be buying used cars. I don't want my car shifting for me any more than I want it steering for me. Pretty soon that will be reality as well.

[Shotta]

Originally Posted by JWillis72

At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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with all the "automatic" assisted electronics running on that GT3 you would have to be an extremely bad driver or slightly retarded to not be the fastest. He was probably reading the newspaper and sipping his latte at the same time as well. Point and step on the gas.

My neighbor has a nice bright orange GT3 but we haven't been on the same track together yet, hopefully this summer.

[Shotta]

Shifting Autos be like.