[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by 11Thumper

Jesus, I would have just pulled over and grabbed a pint (or 4) to wait it out...

You took the damn thing off road 4x4 style?

No where to pull off. The shoulder was being used as a lane. And the embankment drops off pretty quick. Also, the nearest bar was across the highway.

Yes I did. It was a very calculated maneuver though. I was getting frustrated that no one was attempting to cross (I would have done so way sooner in any of my previous SUVs). Finally a few pick up trucks started crossing where the slopes weren't quite as steep. I watched their various paths because I couldn't see the ground due to the weeds and I didn't want to take a sharp angle down the hill. Finally, two trucks took the same shallow path, which seemed very smooth as I watched their suspension. I noted the exact location, and when I approached, I followed the same. No issues

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

Perhaps i view things differently, i bought my z as a toy. Anytime i take it out it is for the fun of it. Bought mine 3yrs ago only put 10k miles on it. Its just not practical for anything else other than spirited driving. Not once did i ever wish it was auto, if i got stuck in traffic alot on say to work, i would wish i had a second car to drive to work that was an automatic.

Obviously, you view things differently. The Z is plenty practical for some. I love having it as my DD. Fits plenty of tools, luggage, and golf clubs

When I'm stuck in traffic, I am glad that I have SRM in the Z. I would like another vehicle to DD, but I wouldn't want an automatic

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

I respect your opinions. We'll just agree to disagree.

that's not in the spirit of this thread

[Memphis370Z]

Originally Posted by JARblue

that's not in the spirit of this thread

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!


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[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

Do you ever use SRM when you drive your Z?

It's a great feature when driving the car around the city

I turn it off when I do 'spirited' driving in order to keep my skills up to speed

Originally Posted by FPenvy

and the SRM is one of the greatest features on the Z. you're missing out on that one especially being a manual transmission advocate. unless you're the purist type then you'll think its pointless.

SRM is great in traffic. If you like to do your own rev-matching, turn it off or you'll just end up fighting it.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!

Well that's no fun!

[jpkirk]

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z

Ha ha! I'm too old to drive MT and I'm too old to be antagonistic, JARblue!


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Since when is it ever to old to be antagonistic? I am an old fart getting more antagonistic every day. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you, in the most antagonistic way possible She rocks.

I got the 6MT sport package since I like shifting an MT and that SRM makes it sweet.

As far as I am concerned the AT/MT argument is really personal preference. Most of you guys that think AT is a waste of time have probably never driven one in anger. The fact is, in this day and age AT performance on performance cars have improved to the point that, all other factors being the same (car, age, HP, Torque, driver skill, etc.) the AT will invariably win. It has no care about the type of racing either, road or drag racing. Tech is improving performance across the board so get used to it. And the DCT is just going to get better and better and more available as time marches on. Here watch this video about the Porsche 911 Turbo S ...



OK, not fair you say, $200K car you say. It's where it starts. And that PDK is on the Cayman as well, and it rocks and I'm betting has similar longevity if not exactly the same.

Ok, I'm done.

[Shotta]

Originally Posted by jpkirk

Since when is it ever to old to be antagonistic? I am an old fart getting more antagonistic every day. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you, in the most antagonistic way possible She rocks.

I got the 6MT sport package since I like shifting an MT and that SRM makes it sweet.

As far as I am concerned the AT/MT argument is really personal preference. Most of you guys that think AT is a waste of time have probably never driven one in anger. The fact is, in this day and age AT performance on performance cars have improved to the point that, all other factors being the same (car, age, HP, Torque, driver skill, etc.) the AT will invariably win. It has no care about the type of racing either, road or drag racing. Tech is improving performance across the board so get used to it. And the DCT is just going to get better and better and more available as time marches on. Here watch this video about the Porsche 911 Turbo S ...



OK, not fair you say, $200K car you say. It's where it starts. And that PDK is on the Cayman as well, and it rocks and I'm betting has similar longevity if not exactly the same.


Ok, I'm done.

No doubt technical advancements are great but they aren't necessarily adding to a more exciting experience. The cars that drive themselves around a track, that have automatic steering, automatic brakes, and automatic gas (Audi) can beat any human driver around a road course but what's the fun in that. I guess if you want to sit in the passenger seat sipping a latte while your car does everything automatically then awesome. When we get to that point in the near future with automatic everything then we will all just be passengers in life and drivers won't exist. Just imagine 10 years from now some 16 yr old driver, "steer a car manually, pffff, that's old school"


I absolutely love technology, I work for a robotics company, but when it comes to cars I guess I like the old technology for at least some parts. Old Porsche 911 turbo whale tale, with the old school mt, is one of my dream cars.

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by Shotta

This thread is very good for both manual and automatic drivers, shows that people are different and passionate about things and that's what keeps life interesting. Although for the most part it's just to take jabs at each other.

wait.....I thought that's what it was for?

[airikrankin]

Im with shotta, explains my point from earlier, with new tech in cars it makes good racers out of bad drivers. I guess its more than auto vs man transmissions. But auto vs manual cars, at what point do u say my car is faster than yours instead of im a better driver than you are. Nothin feels better than racing a car that should flat out smoke you yet you end up winning because that guy cant drive


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

Im with shotta, explains my point from earlier, with new tech in cars it makes good racers out of bad drivers. I guess its more than auto vs man transmissions. But auto vs manual cars, at what point do u say my car is faster than yours instead of im a better driver than you are. Nothin feels better than racing a car that should flat out smoke you yet you end up winning because that guy cant drive


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you know that happens on the drag strip too .......just saying lol

[airikrankin]

Ya with manual transmissions


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

Ya with manual transmissions


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exactly.

it means they are the lesser setup.

[airikrankin]

Do you AT guys even lift?


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[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by airikrankin

Do you AT guys even lift?


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no we do not need to lift nor should we lift when shifting.

[airikrankin]

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