[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

[happytheman]

Originally Posted by dudesky

haha. Thank you guys for understanding me It's just that there are so many people around me keep harassing me for having my Z as an auto and call my Z a fake...anyway after 3 years of full payment, I'm going to trade my Z in to manual and can't wait! Drive safe guys

Fake? Is it made by Nissan? Does it have a badge on the left side of the rear bumper that says 370z? If you can say yes to both of these questions I think these people that you are referring to can rest assured its the real McCoy..and they fan go to Hell! I hope these aren't people that you consider to be friends. If they are, you might consider getting some new ones.

[KaienZ34]

Originally Posted by happytheman

Fake? Is it made by Nissan? Does it have a badge on the left side of the rear bumper that says 370z? If you can say yes to both of these questions I think these people that you are referring to can rest assured its the real McCoy..and they fan go to Hell! I hope these aren't people that you consider to be friends. If they are, you might consider getting some new ones.

Fvck those pricks.

[McFrostyJ]

I agree with the above 100%!

[dudesky]

no no my friends. They are def not my friends haha. How can I be friends with pple who call my Z a fake?!!! h*ll no! they are like either random people I meet or little kids I used to know. Everytime they do that, I always go like "then race me b**ch, let see what fake Z can do" and they won't race and because they are scared. haha

[KaienZ34]

You should ask them.."So where's your Z? O'yeah that's right you drive a civic."

[shadoquad]

autotragic

[Kirkster]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

autotragic

Not an autotragic driver myself...

now a dual clutch sequential... I might be convinced, but the car would have to have a black horse on a yellow background on the badge...

[Mt Tam I am]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

autotragic

+1 very much deserved

[DEpointfive0]

Why in God's name would you WANT that feature

EDIT: lol, exactly what you wanted me NOT to do LOL

[XwChriswX]

Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Please, no comments on how ATs don't need shift lights.

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Why in God's name would you WANT that feature

Edit: I put that in specifically for you.

[Z-Girl 12]

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Why in God's name would you WANT that feature

EDIT: lol, exactly what you wanted me NOT to do LOL

[wstar]

Originally Posted by b15

Perhaps you should get educated. The torque converter 7at functions nothing like a DCT. Yes it shifts faster for a torque converter trans.....but in no way goes about its gear changes like a dct. These 7AT drivers are over sensitive. You guys forgot to mention that its faster (barely) down the 1/4 mile too.

I'm plenty educated! Been driving it for thousands of miles. I understand the mechanical differences, but the bottom line is there's very little practical difference. The 7AT shifts pretty damn fast, fast enough that a 6MT driver following me around the track was envious of the shift times. I'm not being sensitive, but I am defending the transmission. I think most of the naysayers haven't ever given the 7AT an honest shot. It's nothing like other crappy autos you've seen in other cars.

Watch (well, hear) the shift times for yourself: MSRH CCW Jun29 - YouTube

[luigi90210]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

And it starts, manual vs auto for the 500th time.

I'll pour gas on the fire.
The auto shifts faster

well i dont think im pointing out anything outrageous
the point in getting an auto is for comfort and ease when driving, not worrying when to shift, ect.

now if you're shifting the automatic 24/7
why even get the automatic in the first place?
kind of see my point here

nothing against auto owners, different strokes for different folks but i personally just dont see the point in getting an automatic just to shift it like a manual and play pretend all the time(this only applies to people who keep their automatic in M mode 24/7)

Originally Posted by wstar

The 6MT owners just don't like to hear that they're working that clutch for nothing. It's ok, let 'em vent.

what is this work you speak of?
I dont have to work to drive my car around, imo its just as easy as driving an auto plus im not brain dead like 99.99% of every other automatic driver

[wstar]

Originally Posted by luigi90210

well i dont think im pointing out anything outrageous
the point in getting an auto is for comfort and ease when driving, not worrying when to shift, ect.

now if you're shifting the automatic 24/7
why even get the automatic in the first place?
kind of see my point here

nothing against auto owners, different strokes for different folks but i personally just dont see the point in getting an automatic just to shift it like a manual and play pretend all the time(this only applies to people who keep their automatic in M mode 24/7)




what is this work you speak of?
I dont have to work to drive my car around, imo its just as easy as driving an auto

It's really not just as easy. There's a clutch pedal. The point of getting an auto and putting it in M-mode 24/7 is you get the driving benefits of a manual (being able to select the correct gear, which a normal auto in Drive never gets right for performance driving), but you don't have to be a heel-toe wizard to get smooth shifts. SRM on our 6MTs negates the heel-toe thing anyways, but still - why have one more pedal to worry about operating delicately to get the same result?

plus im not brain dead like 99.99% of every other automatic driver

See, it's comments like these that turn this from a friendly debate into a "**** you you're not like me" sort of war.

[luigi90210]

Originally Posted by wstar

It's really not just as easy. There's a clutch pedal. The point of getting an auto and putting it in M-mode 24/7 is you get the driving benefits of a manual (being able to select the correct gear, which a normal auto in Drive never gets right for performance driving), but you don't have to be a heel-toe wizard to get smooth shifts. SRM on our 6MTs negates the heel-toe thing anyways, but still - why have one more pedal to worry about operating delicately to get the same result?



See, it's comments like these that turn this from a friendly debate into a "**** you you're not like me" sort of war.

no it is just as easy, the clutch work is nothing and i have been in LA traffic off the 405 with my Z and still no complaints about the car or the transmission, just the traffic

and comments like the ones i made are true, i dont know if you notice it but when i ride my bike around town, i see so many people driving automatic cars, slamming their brakes 20ft before every red light and every parked car and to top it all off, the person is usually texting, or dialing the phone while driving

with my MT, im always paying attention to the road because if i dont, ill stall out my car, i am not tempted to text while driving because i have to change gears manually, im not tempted to answer the phone when i am driving because i have to keep one hand free to either hold the steering wheel or shift

im not saying anyone here is like that, what i am saying is AT just feed that kind of bad behavior and it is something that needs to stop because it puts everyone at risk, not just the distracted driver but i digress

I have owned/own a few AT cars before, my GS-T Spyder Eclipse is an AT, the 05 altima sedan i use to own was an AT, there is nothing wrong with driving an AT, just i dont shift those cars manually because its an automatic, if i wanted to i could but then what was the point in buying it if i was going to drive it like a manual 24/7 pretending it is something that it is not

maybe that is just one of the mysteries in life ill just never understand but i dont think you or anyone else for that matter can make me see eye to eye with shifting a AT manually 24/7(i can understand using it to downshift to pass up a car or to get a sporty feel in a canyon but to shift it 24/7 as if it was a manual is just beyond me)