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FPenvy 11-05-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3341518)
Yes sir!


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very nice!

my question is though if it's capable as is to handle 1000whp why did you need the FI flex plate? does the tranny build not include a new one?

i'm just curious in the case that I need a tranny or go boost obviously I would need a built tranny. already called level10 months ago talking numbers and whatnot before anyone got one done yet I never asked about the flex plate lol

JARblue 11-05-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3341516)
Driving a stick isn't hard its just slower. I don't think I know anyone that can't drive one.

No one ever said it was hard :rolleyes:

In fact ... that is one of the main reasons to rip on someone who can't drive a stick :tiphat:

If you don't know anyone that can't drive stick, you apparently are not familiar with 93% of the US population. I call :bs:

D.Stillwell 11-05-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3341525)
If you don't know anyone that can't drive stick, you apparently are not familiar with 93% of the US population. I call :bs:


True. I think this largely relates to age also. Anyone born past the 80's probably knows nothing of a manual tranny.

I think that 93% stat is confusing current MT drivers vs non-drivers who still know. Most people over 35-40yo these days have driven an MT at least once in their life but most people just dont drive MT these days.

Driving an MT is quite the novelty nowadays.


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JWillis72 11-05-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3341524)
very nice!

my question is though if it's capable as is to handle 1000whp why did you need the FI flex plate? does the tranny build not include a new one?

i'm just curious in the case that I need a tranny or go boost obviously I would need a built tranny. already called level10 months ago talking numbers and whatnot before anyone got one done yet I never asked about the flex plate lol

Level 10 doesn't make a Flex plate and they are known to brake them because they shift so hard. F.I. just got the first batch of these last week. I didn't want to have to slow the shifts down to protect the flex plate and this thing should be able to take all I can give it.

FPenvy 11-05-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3341535)
Level 10 doesn't make a Flex plate and they are known to brake them because they shift so hard. F.I. just got the first batch of these last week. I didn't want to have to slow the shifts down to protect the flex plate and this thing should be able to take all I can give it.

ooooh I know lol I got messages that the flex plates were in for FI and I may be getting one when spring rolls around.

car is going into hibernation very soon so no need right now.

JWillis72 11-05-2015 09:12 AM

I bet a lot more people than you think know how to drive a stick and just chose not to. There are 12 people at my office and one person that is 22 said he hasn't. Of that same group one guy owns a stick but it's not his DD, it's a mud Jeep.

JARblue 11-05-2015 09:12 AM

That FI flex plate is such sex :yum:

I can't use one on my car, but I'd mount one on the wall in my garage :icon17:

JARblue 11-05-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3341540)
I bet a lot more people than you think know how to drive a stick and just chose not to. There are 12 people at my office and one person that is 22 said he hasn't. Of that same group one guy owns a stick but it's not his DD, it's a mud Jeep.

Fair enough. The 93% number is definitely inflated. As mentioned in an earlier post, it's probably just the percentage of ATs that are bought these days.

I still know dozens of people that have no clue how to drive a stick. And judging by how the other drivers on the road handle their ATs, I can't imagine most of them don't have any clue how to drive a stick either :twocents:

FPenvy 11-05-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3341541)
That FI flex plate is such sex :yum:

I can't use one on my car, but I'd mount one on the wall in my garage :icon17:

its a pricey piece of art :bowrofl:

then again I typically have my FI CF mufflers hanging on my wall

JARblue 11-05-2015 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3341543)
its a pricey piece of art :bowrofl:

Good art always is ;)

Tigger 11-05-2015 09:48 AM

Porsche and customers alike love the PDK becuase... why not drive a fast car faster? That's great for the track and all but on the street? Meh. Sometimes a manual can be a small pain in my ***. Kinda like when you wake up thinking Presto put his finger in your *** but soon discover it isn't his finger and he's resting his chin on your shoulder giving it his all and you're like... dude. it is 3am. Go play halo or something. ;)

FPenvy 11-05-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3341569)
Porsche and customers alike love the PDK becuase... why not drive a fast car faster? That's great for the track and all but on the street? Meh. Sometimes a manual can be a small pain in my ***. Kinda like when you wake up thinking Presto put his finger in your *** but soon discover it isn't his finger and he's resting his chin on your shoulder giving it his all and you're like... dude. it is 3am. Go play halo or something. ;)

you sound like the wifey :bowrofl:

N1SMOZ 11-05-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3341401)
^^ Traffic is a really poor excuse not to drive MT, if ond feels lazy and wants to lay back in comfort while driving....go drive a 4 door auto like 99% of the populace these days. Sports cars should be fun and made for driving, not lounging in comfort in an A to B people mover.

And I say that being stuck in VA/MD traffic on i495 daily with 6MT.

I leave my car running everywhere I go too, knowing nobody will take it since like 2 people still know how to drive standard.

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Exactly. Like I said, traffic being an excuse for not driving manual is a really poor excuse.


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JWillis72 11-05-2015 06:41 PM

I would rather drive an auto in traffic and I also want the faster shifting at the track. Thats not an excuse, there's is just no advantage to driving a stick to me these days. I've had a 240Z that was a stick and a Talon TSI but autos were not worth anything back then, its called progress.

N1SMOZ 11-05-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3341884)
I would rather drive an auto in traffic and I also want the faster shifting at the track. Thats not an excuse, there's is just no advantage to driving a stick to me these days. I've had a 240Z that was a stick and a Talon TSI but autos were not worth anything back then, its called progress.


It's called preference. I prefer driving stick because to me, and most others, it's the fun factor that counts. Driving auto is more practical, you have that. But most people use traffic as an excuse but hey, to each their own.


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