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FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324250)
I'm sure this ****ty pony will be be able to hold its own in a much higher crowd.


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so was your point to come in and back the manual choice or back your poor taste in vehicles? lol

Lemers 10-07-2015 12:14 PM

Even my Z was a manual when I had it. I think all performance vehicles should offer it.


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FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324254)
Even my Z was a manual when I had it. I think all performance vehicles should offer it.


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to counter that i would say they all should offer auto. cayman GT4 had my interest until i read they left their amazing PDK tranny on the shelf for it.

mustang GT350(R) should have a strong auto maybe even DCT option but it's ford soooo that's a given.

manual isn't always better. i feel people just cant/wont admit that its outdated tech. :shakes head:

Lemers 10-07-2015 12:23 PM

It's not dead yet, because it takes a highly engineered and vary tech heavy auto DCT, PDK or what ever other "licensed" transmission they come up with.

Driving aids are usually frowned on by driving enthusiasts. I can see were there thrill in having the car drive itself comes from but it's not for me.


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jpkirk 10-07-2015 12:26 PM

It is outdated tech, I agree. Still, I like shifting and the added tech of SRM works for me. Was watching the Motor Trend Best drivers video and the CTS-V, I think, has a rev kill switch so that you can shift with out lifting the throttle. So if you have rev matching and the throttle kill ... eh? Keeping it is much manual but adding automation. Kinda cool.

Still it was a difficult pick for me. Went with the manual with SRM. If it had been DCT, Ida spent the extra 10K. My wife wouldn't have but I woulda.

FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324260)
It's not dead yet, because it takes a highly engineered and vary tech heavy auto DCT, PDK or what ever other "licensed" transmission they come up with.

Driving aids are usually frowned on by driving enthusiasts. I can see were there thrill in having the car drive itself comes from but it's not for me.


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stubborn "enthusiast". i hate that word too. it's like a get out of jail free card to be stuck in one's ways.

that's like me saying Hitler was a camping enthusiast.

:facepalm:

jpkirk 10-07-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3324268)
stubborn "enthusiast". i hate that word too. it's like a get out of jail free card to be stuck in one's ways.

that's like me saying Hitler was a camping enthusiast.

:facepalm:

:eek:

the "Hitler" card!

Lemers 10-07-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3324268)
stubborn "enthusiast". i hate that word too. it's like a get out of jail free card to be stuck in one's ways.



that's like me saying Hitler was a camping enthusiast.



:facepalm:


You just lost me??? Are you calling me hitter or a Nazi? I don't think that's right.


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jpkirk 10-07-2015 12:32 PM

Here we go!

FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324271)
You just lost me??? Are you calling me hitter or a Nazi? I don't think that's right.


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neither. it's a generic/comical reference as a comparison.

it was not calling you a a Nazi/Hitler specifically.

:shakes head:

manual guys......slow at everything

jwick 10-07-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324271)
You just lost me??? Are you calling me hitter or a Nazi? I don't think that's right.


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I see you are from Turkey so I'll help you. Nothing that comes out of Presto's mouth is serious. All of it is to lead you into whatever end joke he has in mind. Sometimes, meaning almost always, they are distasteful but you'll get used to it.

He's a hero is his own mind:stirthepot:

Lemers 10-07-2015 12:40 PM

No no no it says hitler right there in your post.


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jwick 10-07-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3324226)
surrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee.



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its still a manual :stirthepot:

Point???

Manuals, although 'out-dated tech' put down more power as they have less loses thru the train than the shitty slush boxes you have such a difficult time removing your penis from.:tup:

FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3324275)
I see you are from Turkey so I'll help you. Nothing that comes out of Presto's mouth is serious. All of it is to lead you into whatever end joke he has in mind. Sometimes, meaning almost always, they are distasteful but you'll get used to it.

He's a hero is his own mind:stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 3324277)
No no no it says hitler right there in your post.


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^^^

he still doesn't get the joke :shakes head: jwick it's a lost cause.


and read the bottom of his sig. driving LTZ until he leaves for turkey. makes me assumes he's American?

FPenvy 10-07-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3324278)
Point???

Manuals, although 'out-dated tech' put down more power as they have less loses thru the train than the shitty slush boxes you have such a difficult time removing your penis from.:tup:

in the Z the difference of power loss through the drivetrain is 2-4% difference which in most cases equals 5whp.

so you take the 5hp and i'll not miss a gear, shift faster, have better gearing, and walk on manuals all day.

:tiphat:


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