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wstar 09-23-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman66 (Post 1928496)
Absolutely mind boggling how Nissan can let this go. Its a serious safety issue...several times I have punched it to enter traffic etc and the car has fallen on its face.

I'm sorry, but there's no way that's from a little extra heat in the engine. More than one issue is being confused in this thread, repeatedly. What you're describing sounds like VDC to me, which is a whole separate issue. Even if our engine was at half its potential power due to some monumentally bad tuning at higher temperatures (and it's not...), it would still have enough power to get up and go in traffic.

OMGiGOTaZ 09-23-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1928509)
I'm sorry, but there's no way that's from a little extra heat in the engine. More than one issue is being confused in this thread, repeatedly. What you're describing sounds like VDC to me, which is a whole separate issue. Even if our engine was at half its potential power due to some monumentally bad tuning at higher temperatures (and it's not...), it would still have enough power to get up and go in traffic.

With a bunch more Z experience under my foot, I agree it appears to be the VDC:ugh2:

DIGItonium 09-23-2012 04:56 PM

It's interesting the 350Z doesn't have this problem. It pretty much has a nice 1:1 response.

asdfsammich 09-23-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1928552)
It's interesting the 350Z doesn't have this problem. It pretty much has a nice 1:1 response.

The 1:1 feel on the 350 was always consistent and crisp. Compared to 370, it's the one thing I miss. Although, admittedly, with finesse you can coax the same response from the 370. It's just not as much of a black and white jolt like it was before. It's layered now, lols.


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IcedZ 09-24-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bushman66 (Post 1928496)
I haven't been here in a while, but I added the 34 row cooler from Z1, oil temps now run no hotter than 200, even on 110+ days and the car still does this. Absolutely mind boggling how Nissan can let this go. Its a serious safety issue...several times I have punched it to enter traffic etc and the car has fallen on its face.

Yeah, I got into a minor 'accident' because of it. I stalled on a steel hill, tapped the car behind me. No damage or injury. I traded it in the week after that.

DIGItonium 09-24-2012 10:04 AM

Ditto... stalled on several occasions. Lately I'm really feeling the car fall flat on it's face regardless of temps, I'll floor it in any gear and the power isn't quite there. Then there are times it goes wild and catches me off guard given the same pedal input. [shrugs]

OMGiGOTaZ 09-24-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1929334)
Ditto... stalled on several occasions. Lately I'm really feeling the car fall flat on it's face regardless of temps, I'll floor it in any gear and the power isn't quite there. Then there are times it goes wild and catches me off guard given the same pedal input. [shrugs]

What I've noticed is that it appears when wheels are still turned but if I straighten them out before giving it more Gas she lets loose even more than I expect sometimes :icon17:

kenny's 370z 09-24-2012 01:00 PM

im curious if anyone on this board has installed a csf radiator and an oil cooler if the delay is still happening in 90+ ambient when running the car hard ?

UNKNOWN_370 09-24-2012 03:03 PM

When you guys say gas pedal delay? Are you saying delayed throttle response or reduced power output? The way this conversation is going on here is hella confusing. It's 2 topics rolled into one.

1. Throttle response is fixed with a proper intake mod.

2. Summertime engine power reduction. As long as hot humid air is flowing through the intakes? there will be some performance reduction in summer months. Would adding a bunch of cooling mods improve this sensation? Maybe? By what percentage? Most likely very small. The best mod for this problem is called spring and fall.

Price to performance, it's not the kind of mod you do unless you truly need to replace the parts spoken of. Then you go higher grade. But the money is yours and you guys can do what you like. When the sub 90 degree days return? You will also feel your HP return as well.

kenny's 370z 09-24-2012 03:11 PM

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cab83_750 09-25-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny's 370z (Post 1929589)
im curious if anyone on this board has installed a csf radiator and an oil cooler if the delay is still happening in 90+ ambient when running the car hard ?

For reference, 60 degrees, drove 5 miles, filled up the tank, and when I tried to make a right turn from the gas station driveway, the car just wouldn't move for a few seconds. Based on my experience, pedal delay has nothing to do with temp; so I would not experiment with bigger radiator.

DIGItonium 09-25-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1929735)
When you guys say gas pedal delay? Are you saying delayed throttle response or reduced power output? The way this conversation is going on here is hella confusing. It's 2 topics rolled into one.

At first I thought it was delay, but not anymore. It's just the feeling of the throttle not opening up at lower revs. It's a completely different feeling compared to the 350Z (definitely more consistent even if it is touchy), and I guess that's what everyone's missing.

Losing power due to higher ambient temps is one thing, but the weather is much cooler now. There are times I can break the tires loose in 2nd from a roll, and then there are times I can't even get the car moving in the same gear even with VDC disabled. It is pretty inconsistent. There's this weird feeling when pressing down the pedal that the car would accelerate, but falls flat the further I press down on the pedal. The same for 1st gear. There are times it'll surge to redline, and other times I can hold down the pedal and not get the tires to spin out. I tend to get the car moving in 1st at low revs around 1-1.5k RPM, and the car ramps up real slow. I'll even floor it, and it makes no difference. Past 2-2.5k power surges, which makes it tough to get the car moving smoothly because I'll go from bogging to giving it too much gas to get the car moving.

Plus, revving in one spot just for kicks is funky. It revs up slowly compared to the 350Z when briefly punching the pedal to the floor. Anyone notice how much harder it is to manually rev match with S-Mode disabled? My time is off, and I have to hold the pedal down longer to get the car to rev when down shifting or I'll bog.

[EDIT] I'm going to check the brake switch again. I had similar symptoms a couple of years ago, added a shimmy to one of the brake switches, and the car was great fun to drive again.

OMGiGOTaZ 09-25-2012 07:53 PM

Between the VDC and different shoes I wear, she's a tricky beast:bowrofl:

But when wearing my boots, oddly she feels jussst right!:eek:

cab83_750 09-26-2012 02:11 AM

For those who have been experiencing this often enough, can you try mixing your 91/92 octane premium gas with racing fuel? I am just wondering if raising the octane to 93-95 makes a difference?

One more question... Do we know if this pedal delay is country specific or worldwide? Is it just us in US?

kenny's 370z 09-26-2012 03:12 PM

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