Yes, another oil temp thread...

[Jordo!]

Humor the newbie

A few quick questions:

1. What average temps are people seeing ? A cursory read through says around 200-220*F with sprited non-track driving. That is NORMAL. In fact, no one should be romping on the car much below 160* F, and ideal temp is most likely right around 200* F even.

Unless you are regularly seeing over 250* for extended periods, especially with a good synthetic, I doubt it's a cause for concern.

Clearly guys who track it are having issues, but there's a big difference between even very spirited road driving and track driving.

I mention this, because I wonder if non-track drivers need a cooler, and are just driving around with overly-cold oil that never gets to a good temp for most of their driving. That will hurt far more than it will help.

2. Any differences in reported oil temp issues (legitimate or chicken-little) between 2009 and 2010?

3. Anyone noticed any connection between following proper break-in, buring oil and higher oil temps? Poorly seated rings may be consuming oil, increasing engine tempss, and carrying oil temps with it.

I chekced with a a friend who works at Toyota and is an engine builder (yes, not Nissan, but really, how different could their methods and procedures be?), and he advised I follow the wear-in procedure, contrary to some people's (apparently erroneous) belief that this is all done prior to assembly by the factory...


If these are all stupid questions that have been dealt with before, please either direct me to a specifc thread (I did read over a few of the long oiltemp threads already...) or just tell me politely to shut the hell up

[NyCSnEaK]

Ibtl...

[AK370Z]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Humor the newbie

A few quick questions:

1. What average temps are people seeing ? A cursory read through says around 200-220*F with sprited non-track driving. That is NORMAL. In fact, no one should be romping on the car much below 160* F, and ideal temp is most likely right around 200* F even.

Unless you are regularly seeing over 250* for extended periods, especially with a good synthetic, I doubt it's a cause for concern.

Clearly guys who track it are having issues, but there's a big difference between even very spirited road driving and track driving.

I mention this, because I wonder if non-track drivers need a cooler, and are just driving around with overly-cold oil that never gets to a good temp for most of their driving. That will hurt far more than it will help.

2. Any differences in reported oil temp issues (legitimate or chicken-little) between 2009 and 2010?

3. Anyone noticed any connection between following proper break-in, buring oil and higher oil temps? Poorly seated rings may be consuming oil, increasing engine tempss, and carrying oil temps with it.

I chekced with a a friend who works at Toyota and is an engine builder (yes, not Nissan, but really, how different could their methods and procedures be?), and he advised I follow the wear-in procedure, contrary to some people's (apparently erroneous) belief that this is all done prior to assembly by the factory...


If these are all stupid questions that have been dealt with before, please either direct me to a specifc thread (I did read over a few of the long oiltemp threads already...) or just tell me politely to shut the hell up

Hey, welcome to The370Z.

1. ANS: MY average (in summer time) normal driving about 220-225F. If A/C is on, it goes down to about 205-210 (215 maybe). If you're not attending HPDE (or similar track event), you don't need an oil cooler. After breaking in your car, get a good synthetic oil.

2. ANS: There shouldn't be any difference. It's the exact same car. 2010 gets heated side mirrors and cabin air filter - that's it!

3. ANS: With this question, you're opening a can of worms. I properly followed the break in procedure given by Nissan engineers. Currently I'm at 19,500 miles. I do not have excessive consumption or any other issues. But, there are members who left the dealership doing burnouts and their Z is fine as well. Very controversial subject. You probably just have to follow what you believe seems right.

Oil heating thread: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...emp-issues.htm

Break in threads: Break-In a New Car

New Car Break In

The infamous "break-in" period.

Break In Period?

Thanks

[CBRich]

That's the best response I have seen to a thread in my entire life.

[Jordo!]

Thank you for the detailed response -- I am a newbie here, so asking questions that have been already answered (even with searching, which I do make a point to do before posting...) is inevitable.

Thanks again -- I greatly appreciate it

[Jordo!]

Oh, don't know if anyone has considered incorporating one of these in their cooler set up, but I would recommend using an oil temp thermostat.

Looks like a few dynos on here suggest optimal power around 195* F, so I'd spring for the custom set one, set it for that (or 200* even -- 180* is a bit cool IMO) and then you are set for all driving conditions

BAT, Inc. - MOCAL Oil Coolers

Will probably do this for peace of mind at some point -- ensures you never run too hot or too cold

[FuszNissan]

Kannibul is that you?

[Jordo!]

Hmm. I see there is a thread on overcooling too ... I'll try the custom temp range before I worry about building a shroud you have to install/remove periodically...

[FuszNissan]

I averaged 240-245 when I had my PG Demo.
Mods where : F.I. Exhaust , Stillen Gen 3 Intake, and Berk HFC's. I did the proper break in to the tee.

[zZSportZz]

I hit 260+ on the dragon a couple times!

[Trips]

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Kannibul is that you?

[spearfish25]

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I averaged 240-245 when I had my PG Demo.
Mods where : F.I. Exhaust , Stillen Gen 3 Intake, and Berk HFC's. I did the proper break in to the tee.

Last summer while my car was a newb, I was getting routinely in the 230s during street driving. It would creep up to 240 if I sat in traffic for an hour. I was especially annoyed at how retarded the engine timing felt as the temps went higher and higher. Perhaps that was just general heat soak though...

On my track days, she'll climb to 260 and I have to back off. It doesn't ruin the day, but it's annoying to see the needle keep going up, up, up. Also, I've been limited to early and late season events as I know that a July/August track day will lead to oil-boiling temps.

So, I'm going to install a cooler with a 200F thermostat shortly.

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by spearfish25

So, I'm going to install a cooler with a 200F thermostat shortly.

That link above has prices for a custom set oil cooler thermometer -- I think 200 to 205 would be ideal, especially if the typical 180* ones are overcooling in the winter.

[cossie1600]

Anyone know what the 350z run stock for oil temp? I am curious

[Jamaica]

mines usually stays between 180-240 depending on how I drive.