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kjay82 04-19-2010 01:17 AM

which synthetic oil do you prefer??
 
wsup fellow Z ridaz~.. don't know whether or not this is the right area for this question, but here goes anyways..

i hit 1300 miles on my car and am now going to go full synthetic..
Which synthetic oil do you use? And which filter do you use?

I know alot of the forum guys here use redline with a K&N oil filter..
Also, someone on here stated that PURONE makes the best filters.. i don't know.
I'm a K&N fan, so maybe I'll go K&N


My close friend advised the following though:
"Just use a genuine NISSAN oil filter and Mobil 1 synthetic oil"

I went to Wal-Mart and bought a 5qt 0w-30 fully synthetic engine oil for ~$25 and all i need now is an oil filter.. just wanted to get some input before i make the change..

** Just fyi, i drained the factory oil at 600 miles already.. **
probably will keep changing my oil every 4,000 miles..

thanks in advanced

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gumpy 04-19-2010 10:22 PM

You should have put it in the engine area of the forum.

My first change will be at about 4k miles with RP as i've decided to use ester based oils in the car.

Red370 04-19-2010 10:29 PM

RP for me, basically because i cant find anything else locally and its never done me wrong. K&N filter because its the best autozone sells i guess.

Trips 04-19-2010 10:33 PM

Congrats and Welcome!

I see we're practically neighbors. lol :hello:

And like it has been suggested, edit your intro post to only introduce yourself, and ask the oil question on the engine section.

AK370Z 04-19-2010 10:51 PM

K&N is fine. I currently have pure1 on my Z but I have two K&N sitting at my desk. So I'll use those K&N for next two changes and switch to Purolator Pure1 for all future changes :tup:

As for oil, any API certified 5W30 will work. Though, it's suggested that you wait a little (3000-5000 miles) before switching to synthetic THOUGH there are members here that switched at as early as thousand miles and no issues till date.

Welcome :hello:

Xan 04-20-2010 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 504641)
K&N is fine. I currently have pure1 on my Z but I have two K&N sitting at my desk. So I'll use those K&N for next two changes and switch to Purolator Pure1 for all future changes :tup:

Why are you changing?

dad 04-20-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kjay82 (Post 503177)
"Just use a genuine NISSAN oil filter and Mobil 1 synthetic oil"

I went to Wal-Mart and bought a 5qt 0w-30 fully synthetic engine oil for ~$25 and all i need now is an oil filter.. just wanted to get some input before i make the change..

You bought Mobil 1 synthetic for $25.00?

Here is a better view of the filter AK posted & recommended, you can see the product number a little better.

AK370Z 04-20-2010 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 504726)
Why are you changing?

UPS screwed up my oil filter order which I placed two months ago. Then, K&N sent me two filters. I plan on using them and then switch to purolator puro1 for future. I like the pure1 because it's slightly larger as cliff aka "dad" pointed out.

Xan 04-20-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 504855)
UPS screwed up my oil filter order which I placed two months ago. Then, K&N sent me two filters. I plan on using them and then switch to purolator puro1 for future. I like the pure1 because it's slightly larger as cliff aka "dad" pointed out.

Ah ok, the reason I asked because I thought you might have had some insight to which one is better.

From what I understand the Puro has a finer filter but this comes at the expense of flow rate (though still within SEA standards). Now the bypass pressure on the Puro is also somewhat higher then the K&N.
So allthough it filters better just from a filter performance point of view and therefore does good in tests, I'm wondering how good it is for our engines, especially when you drive them under high load for a longer time.

I wasn't able to find the exact specs for the two different filters and I don't know if this is correct, but this is what I found for similar filters:

Purolator PureOne PL34631
* Average largest pore size: 42 µm
* Smallest pore size: 10 µm
* 30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi: 5.3 oz per minute

K&N 3002
* Average largest pore size: 63 µm
* Smallest pore size: 27 µm
* 30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi: 14.7 oz per minute

Trips 04-20-2010 10:17 AM

Keep in mind this is a new members thread section... lol

Xan 04-20-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 505189)
Keep in mind this is a new members thread section... lol

Yeah and he is new, so I'll forgive him for posting in in the wrong section. :)
But I'm still on topic... :tup:

kjay82 04-20-2010 01:59 PM

Hey all, thanks for all the replies and input..
I'll try to be more careful in where to post and what to put in the header section of posts.

appreciate all the feedbacks..

last question.. anyone use 0W-30??

as for the oil filter, imma probably just roll with da crew and get k&n

drivin blind 04-21-2010 01:39 PM

I do. But it's German Castrol.

jtroun 04-30-2010 08:35 PM

Ester oil is all I have used since buying my car. 21k miles now. However, it does cost an arm and a leg for an oil change.

djpathfinder 04-30-2010 08:47 PM

I just changed my oil and put in Amsoil and used a K&N filter.

kjay82 05-03-2010 01:34 PM

Pepboys had a sale. 5 qts of Mobil 1 fully synthetic and a Mobil 1 oil filter for $30!!


They had it on sale so i went and cleaned out my local pepboys and bought 15 quarts of Mobil 1 fully synthetic 0w-30 and got 3 filters for about $100..

I asked around some speed shops and close car enthusiast friends told me Mobil 1 was awesome.

As for Ester oils, they mentioned that ester oils just lasts longer.
"If you don't plan on changing your oil very often, then get ester, but if you do it more frequent, you won't need it.."

Ester is so expensive at the same time.. so, no ester for me..

Mobil 1 all the way~ :icon17:

sylenze 05-03-2010 01:51 PM

by the way, amazon has a case of redline 5w30 for $110.90 shipped and after taxes (lowest price i've seen so far)... just fyi... dont know how long price will last..

6MT 05-03-2010 01:54 PM

Oh oh, do I see another oil thread?


btw, I like Amsoil.

tranceformer 05-03-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjay82 (Post 523065)
Pepboys had a sale. 5 qts of Mobil 1 fully synthetic and a Mobil 1 oil filter for $30!!

They had it on sale so i went and cleaned out my local pepboys and bought 15 quarts of Mobil 1 fully synthetic 0w-30 and got 3 filters for about $100..

I asked around some speed shops and close car enthusiast friends told me Mobil 1 was awesome.

I noticed they were on sale too, autozone is running the same sale right now for the next few days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylenze (Post 523085)
by the way, amazon has a case of redline 5w30 for $110.90 shipped and after taxes (lowest price i've seen so far)... just fyi... dont know how long price will last..

I may try that sooner or later for sh*ts & giggles.

I noticed the local Walmart has a rollback price on 5qt jug of Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 for $20 (regular price $23). I think I might pick up a a jug or two.

ryanboy 05-03-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtroun (Post 520417)
Ester oil is all I have used since buying my car. 21k miles now. However, it does cost an arm and a leg for an oil change.

is this part # 999mp5w30ep ester oil???

efuseakay 05-04-2010 01:08 AM

I used Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra with PureOne filters on my last car (2004 Maxima) and never had any problems... I have a 2010 G37xS sedan now... same engine as the 370, of course... I'll give Pennzoil Ultra a go when it's time for my 2nd oil change. Still have 2,000+ miles to go until my 1st. I'll have the dealer use their stuff, then switch over.

Modshack 05-04-2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 524027)
I used Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra with PureOne filters on my last car (2004 Maxima) and never had any problems... .

That's my current fill...

Viera 05-04-2010 09:13 AM

I'm currently running Red Line oil with PureOne oil filter.

LiquidZ 05-04-2010 10:17 AM

Amsoil.

Still not sure if I will go with the Signature Series 0W-30 or the normal full synthetic 5W-30 this time around.

Wix is my filter of choice, but I could also use a Purolator Pure1.

drivin blind 05-04-2010 12:25 PM

G.C. 0W-30. Worked well in both the WRX and STI. Use Super Tech filters. Always changed at 3000 mi.

j.arnaldo 05-04-2010 02:03 PM

Some auto manufacturers deliver their new vehicles with synth' oil. Weird.

blackflag 05-04-2010 02:10 PM

Valvoline synthetic, Pure One filter. :happydance:

Philipp 05-04-2010 06:04 PM

Lol. Those oil threads!
Did anyone ever heard a drama story with someone using synthetic oil in the past (not refering to low oil issues due to engine comsuption, bad seals, too long oil change intervals or cheap filters!!!).
I'm using using Royal Purple right now, but use Mobil1, RedLine, Castrol Syntec, Amsoil etc... And NEVER had any kind of issues...

destinyZ 05-04-2010 06:47 PM

I use mobile 1 full sunthetic. You can't go wrong with a NASCAR sponsor. :tup: http://www.royalpurple.com/corvette-enthusiast.html

Daishi 05-04-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 504613)
You should have put it in the engine area of the forum.

My first change will be at about 4k miles with RP as i've decided to use ester based oils in the car.

Royal Purple isnt an ester based oil..

destinyZ 05-04-2010 07:03 PM

forgot to add that the link is for royal purple. It shows a big diferance over moble 1. check it out if your bored.

gumpy 05-04-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 524901)
Royal Purple isnt an ester based oil..

I'm reasonably sure it is, it's a Group V oil isn't it?

You got any info which shows it's not? Happy to learn more... The article posted on the RP site suggests that it doesn't but does it indirectly... but all the other wisdom on the internet (and yes i know the net isn't the best for info) suggests it has plenty of esters in it...

I've just shot an email to RP themselves for an answer... Will let you know of their response...

RCZ 05-04-2010 07:45 PM

Redline for me.

Danny3.7 05-04-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 524915)
I'm reasonably sure it is, it's a Group V oil isn't it?

You got any info which shows it's not? Happy to learn more... The article posted on the RP site suggests that it doesn't but does it indirectly... but all the other wisdom on the internet (and yes i know the net isn't the best for info) suggests it has plenty of esters in it...

I've just shot an email to RP themselves for an answer... Will let you know of their response...

Guys I swear I lost hp and tq with Royal Purple 5W30 with this engine. and from what I have heard the 350Z HR guys have quoted the same. This stuff works wonders for the old VQ and it is what i ran in my G35C, but not in the Z, never again. It was my first mistake I made with this car. redline FTW!!

gumpy 05-04-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny3.7 (Post 524991)
Guys I swear I lost hp and tq with Royal Purple 5W30 with this engine. and from what I have heard the 350Z HR guys have quoted the same. This stuff works wonders for the old VQ and it is what i ran in my G35C, but not in the Z, never again. It was my first mistake I made with this car. redline FTW!!

oh that's a shame... though i probably won't notice it cause i'm changing from the factory fill....

gumpy 05-05-2010 07:22 PM

Well I got responses from both Aus and US technical officers at RP... it's a group IV oil not a group V... lame... I have a bottle to use... ><

LateralG'z 05-05-2010 07:33 PM

ester is just another sales gimmick, semi synthetic like any other, if you are going abuse the car use royal purple 10W40 in the summer and 5W30 in the winter. Summit racing has it at a great price. Ester doesn't handle heat very well so if you track it I would switch.

LateralG'z 05-05-2010 07:35 PM

oh and get the XPR series.

sonic370 05-05-2010 08:01 PM

imo mobil1 is one of the best. it's been around a long time.i have used it in a corvette and now my Z with no problems.

gumpy 05-05-2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 526271)
ester is just another sales gimmick, semi synthetic like any other, if you are going abuse the car use royal purple 10W40 in the summer and 5W30 in the winter. Summit racing has it at a great price. Ester doesn't handle heat very well so if you track it I would switch.

Nah there's a reason why we want ester for our cars...

well documented in the G37 world, the engine can tick due to the film breaking on the VVEL mechanism... The ester sticks to the hydrogenless diamond like coating we have on the moving parts of the engine stopping the ticking... It's why the Nissan Ester oil was created...

I don't abuse my car... we'll see how it goes with the RP... I may consider moving to Motul or Redline in the future...


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