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Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 07:37 AM

First oil change coming up, need some advice.
 
So i got 5600 miles now on my car and since I will be going to get my oil change at 6300ish since the GT-R technician who worked on my intakes advised getting it around then even though nissan says 13000ish.

I need some advices on oil filter, magnets, the oil itself and potentially a oil cooler.

so please help me out. :bowrofl:

370zFORme!! 04-08-2010 10:19 AM

I just changed my oil yesterday for the first time. If you read through AK370's DIY oil change thread before and you know what to expect, its really simple and straightforward. I made a list of steps for myself, something basic and easy to understand so I wouldn't have to keep looking online. Just buy exactly what AK purchased (Filter, Filtermag, Magnetic drain plug, etc.) they are all quality products and the oil really comes down to you, whether you want to switch to synthetic or not, and what brand of oil you use. Just make sure you follow the manual's recommendations of API certified oils in a 5w-30 weight. For the oil cooler, I have no experience, but there are like 5 threads about DIY installs(ok, maybe not 5). Just do a search and read up! Good luck!

Modshack 04-08-2010 12:19 PM

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tjlazer 04-08-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 486723)
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LOL!

A tip I would like to give is to use a strap wrench to remove your filter. Also you do not need to remove the 15+ bolts and engine splash sheild. The 4 bolts near the filter and drain plug is enough...

370zFORme!! 04-08-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 486785)
LOL!

A tip I would like to give is to use a strap wrench to remove your filter. Also you do not need to remove the 15+ bolts and engine splash sheild. The 4 bolts near the filter and drain plug is enough...

You know, I didnt even need that, the filter came off by hand. So easy! But ya the 15 bolts you def dont need to remove. Good tip!

j.arnaldo 04-08-2010 01:07 PM

I'm the ignoramus in this forum, regarding automotive mechanics, but I can pass on some very interesting info' I read some time back. This engineer in the U.S. purchased a sample of every oil filter in the market; he proceeded to cut each one in ½. He discovered that Pureone by Purolator is THE best one. DISCLAIMER: I am NOT an engineer or mechanic, and am just selling it to you like I was sold on it. The best part is that they're not expensive at all!

Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 01:27 PM

interesting. I will have to look into that one. now lets see what would be a good oil.

I am fortunate that my dealership lolled hard at american dealerships tryin got push the nissan ester oil.

tjlazer 04-08-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 486829)
I'm the ignoramus in this forum, regarding automotive mechanics, but I can pass on some very interesting info' I read some time back. This engineer in the U.S. purchased a sample of every oil filter in the market; he proceeded to cut each one in ½. He discovered that Pureone by Purolator is THE best one. DISCLAIMER: I am NOT an engineer or mechanic, and am just selling it to you like I was sold on it. The best part is that they're not expensive at all!

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Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 486829)
I'm the ignoramus in this forum, regarding automotive mechanics, but I can pass on some very interesting info' I read some time back. This engineer in the U.S. purchased a sample of every oil filter in the market; he proceeded to cut each one in ½. He discovered that Pureone by Purolator is THE best one. DISCLAIMER: I am NOT an engineer or mechanic, and am just selling it to you like I was sold on it. The best part is that they're not expensive at all!

I wont be able to find that filter here since the stores here don't have them + you cant order directly from them :shakes head:

j.arnaldo 04-08-2010 01:51 PM

No prob', tjlazer! I'm a Fed', and not in the private sector, anyway. Greetings!

Sorry, Vegitto. That's weird, man. How 'bout an e:Bay search?! Down here (Puerto Rico) their regular price is $6.95
plus 7% tax. When they're on sale, I just rush over to Pep Boys or Auto Zone or Advance Auto, and get them for
$4.95, plus the politicians' tax. Not bad at all. Cheap insurance for a healthy engine!

LiquidZ 04-08-2010 01:53 PM

Stay away from Fram. I'll stop there.

Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 01:55 PM

That bad huh?

LiquidZ 04-08-2010 01:57 PM

I recommend Purolator, Wix, or Amsoil.

I'm using a Wix.

Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 02:01 PM

purolator doesn't have dealers here. wix doesn't seem to have any here too.

amsoil might be a posibility.

LiquidZ 04-08-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 486923)
purolator doesn't have dealers here. wix doesn't seem to have any here too.

amsoil might be a posibility.

Amsoil sells Wix, too.

Amsoil oil filters are great, but are only really needed when using extended drain intervals.

Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 02:13 PM

online store only for us and canada.

great...

anybody up for picking them up for me. :roflpuke2:

j.arnaldo 04-08-2010 02:14 PM

Pathetic marketing strategies by some manufacturers. They deserve to be undersold!

j.arnaldo 04-08-2010 02:17 PM

LiquidZ is right on the money regarding Fram; they're right at the bottom of the list the engineer did on oil filters.

Vegitto-kun 04-08-2010 02:24 PM

Hilarious. well il go to autozone this weekend and see what they can get a hold off.

Well if anybody is willing to get those filters I cant get here please do PM me.

LiquidZ 04-08-2010 02:55 PM

Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States.

IDZRVIT 04-08-2010 04:01 PM

The Z uses the same filter as my 2002 Kia Spectra!:tup:

VCuomo 04-08-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 486950)
LiquidZ is right on the money regarding Fram; they're right at the bottom of the list the engineer did on oil filters.

If it's the study I'm thinking of, he did not test Fram's Extended Guard oil filter - in fact, I believe the Extended Guard line is relatively new and the study was done a number of years ago.

Vegitto-kun 04-09-2010 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 486996)
Vegitto, I'm sure you can find an excellent oil filter in your country. To be honest, I'm not sure what is sold there. The recommendations I made were based on experiences/research I had with filters available to me here in the States.

I am pretty sure that I can get K&N filters here but I will let you guys know next week on what I found

motorking 04-09-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 486912)
Stay away from Fram. I'll stop there.

So tell us why Mr. Amsoil dealer? Tell all of us how the amsoil filter stacks up to the Fram Extended Guard filter in efficiency, capacity, construction and retail price? If you need help, I can tell them, you have a lower filtering efficiency, lower dirt trapping capacity, a retail price that is 30-50% higher, a piece of perforated plastic holding up the media.

Our efficiency is a little higher, the ability to trap and hold dirt exceeds the amsoil filter by 3 grams, we use a stainless steel screen to support the filter media, your filter uses flimsy plastic.

As far as the "study" you all keep referring to, there is no part of that study where the guy actually tests the filters for well, Filtration!. He is a fan of old mopar K cars cutting open filters and offering a very unqualified opinion, nothing more. There is no part of the study where he tests filtering efficiency or capacity.

To the poster, if you want to try a state of the art extended life oil filter, email you address to me at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com and I will send you a case of them.

Vegitto-kun 04-09-2010 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorking (Post 487850)
So tell us why Mr. Amsoil dealer? Tell all of us how the amsoil filter stacks up to the Fram Extended Guard filter in efficiency, capacity, construction and retail price? If you need help, I can tell them, you have a lower filtering efficiency, lower dirt trapping capacity, a retail price that is 30-50% higher, a piece of perforated plastic holding up the media.

Our efficiency is a little higher, the ability to trap and hold dirt exceeds the amsoil filter by 3 grams, we use a stainless steel screen to support the filter media, your filter uses flimsy plastic.

As far as the "study" you all keep referring to, there is no part of that study where the guy actually tests the filters for well, Filtration!. He is a fan of old mopar K cars cutting open filters and offering a very unqualified opinion, nothing more. There is no part of the study where he tests filtering efficiency or capacity.

To the poster, if you want to try a state of the art extended life oil filter, email you address to me at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com and I will send you a case of them.

This is getting interested. fight of the oil filter companies :roflpuke2:

motorking 04-09-2010 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 487862)
This is getting interested. fight of the oil filter companies :roflpuke2:

Except Amsoil is not a filter maker, they slap their name on someone elses filter. This is not a "battle", we will be sticking to engineering facts and science.

G35guy84 04-09-2010 12:30 PM

Getting back to the purpose of the thread and away from opinionated comments, where do K&N and Royal Purple fit into the oil filter mix in terms of quality?

I know AK bought K&N and a few others like that particular brand, but I was leaning more toward buying Amsoil or Royal Purple. To me, both look like quality filters, but I'm no expert.

Also, I can't find Royal Purple's API group number anywhere. I've heard that it's in group IV, but I've also heard it's in group V. However, I also read that Group V oils are reserved for air compressors and similar motors because they're not compatible with petroleum-based fuels and can actually damage auto engines. :confused:

IDZRVIT 04-09-2010 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorking (Post 487873)
......we will be sticking to engineering facts and science.

Which is lacking in this forum.:stirthepot:

LiquidZ 04-09-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorking (Post 487850)
So tell us why Mr. Amsoil dealer? Tell all of us how the amsoil filter stacks up to the Fram Extended Guard filter in efficiency, capacity, construction and retail price? If you need help, I can tell them, you have a lower filtering efficiency, lower dirt trapping capacity, a retail price that is 30-50% higher, a piece of perforated plastic holding up the media.

Our efficiency is a little higher, the ability to trap and hold dirt exceeds the amsoil filter by 3 grams, we use a stainless steel screen to support the filter media, your filter uses flimsy plastic.

As far as the "study" you all keep referring to, there is no part of that study where the guy actually tests the filters for well, Filtration!. He is a fan of old mopar K cars cutting open filters and offering a very unqualified opinion, nothing more. There is no part of the study where he tests filtering efficiency or capacity.

To the poster, if you want to try a state of the art extended life oil filter, email you address to me at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com and I will send you a case of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/EAmfwTvZx7M&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/EAmfwTvZx7M&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

The above video was conducted by an individual who took apart many oil filters made by some of the leading manufacturers in oil filtration. In his channel, you will see that he disassembled Wix, Purolator, Bosch, Mopar, Fram, STP, Mobil 1, and Microgard oil filters. From the video, you can see that the filter housing was the thickest, the anti-drainback valve was the largest, and the filter media was held together my metal end caps. I don't see any perforated plastic anywhere.

Here is an exploded view of an EaO oil filter:
http://www.amsoil.com/products/oil_a...lter_900px.jpg

Also, Amsoil's EaO oil filters have 98.7% filtering efficiency at 15 microns (ISO 4548-12). Looking at the Fram Extended Guard oil filter, I see they have 97% filtering efficiency, also according to ISO 4548-12, but for particles greater than 20 microns.

The only thing you were correct about, was the price. However, its obvious you get what you pay for.

Vegitto-kun 04-09-2010 01:35 PM

well he is sending me free samples so I will try them. free filters why not

G35guy84 04-09-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 488424)

Also, Amsoil's EaO oil filters have 98.7% filtering efficiency at 15 microns (ISO 4548-12). Looking at the Fram Extended Guard oil filter, I see they have 97% filtering efficiency, also according to ISO 4548-12, but for particles greater than 20 microns.

The only thing you were correct about, was the price. However, its obvious you get what you pay for.

:ohsnap1:

j.arnaldo 04-10-2010 02:28 PM

What's the price of an Amsoil filter? The advantage with he Pureone is its great price---besides its construction quality. $6.95, regular price; $4.95, on sale!!!

LiquidZ 04-12-2010 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 490237)
What's the price of an Amsoil filter? The advantage with he Pureone is its great price---besides its construction quality. $6.95, regular price; $4.95, on sale!!!

The EaO12 oil filter for these cars runs at $12.85. This is dealer cost, and what I sell all Amsoil products at.

While the Amsoil filter won't be able to match the PureONE in initial cost, it will become way more competitive in the long run. When used with Amsoil synthetic motor oil, it is guaranteed to remain effective for 25,000 miles.

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 09:54 AM

Seems like the fram filters are going to be here on monday.

So any online shops to buy redline and the magfilter things. Or if anybody here trusts me enough and I can pay them cutting away the online shops

I found one for the redline but the prices are in pounds and converting that to euro is horrible

Vegitto-kun 05-04-2010 02:19 PM

got the fram filters in.

Are they supposed to be so small? I don't know how big the OEM one is but it just look tiny XD

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...Z/IMG_1248.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...Z/IMG_1250.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...Z/IMG_1252.jpg

esfourteen 05-04-2010 03:47 PM

^^ looks stock sized, they are small.

Vegitto-kun 05-04-2010 04:03 PM

ah good.

I hope that they are good.

You see that round shiny piece of metal inside the filter in the third picture?

Kinda looks like a magnet. would be nice no need to go buy a filter magnet :roflpuke2:

and for some reason they added a cd with a video about cartridge oil filter changes.

WRONG CAR FRAM XD

Modshack 05-04-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 524567)
got the fram filters in.

Are they supposed to be so small?

You don't get quantity OR quality with Frams!

Some filter comparo's here...http://myg37.com/forums/engine-drive...otsa-pics.html

gumpy 05-05-2010 12:30 AM

Talked by dealer into letting me bring in my own filters after seeing that G37 forum post...

Might go with K&N, they seem easier to find than Pureone

Vegitto-kun 05-05-2010 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 524675)
You don't get quantity OR quality with Frams!

Some filter comparo's here...Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters (Long Post - Lotsa Pics) - MyG37

I got them for free so I might as well use them :tiphat:


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