another cooler explosion

Z eliminator · 04-06-2010, 07:21 PM

Im waiting for my tranny and oil cooler kit from GTM. I do not have that warm fuzzy feeling after reading this thread.

phelan · 04-06-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Obviously a good move on your part Kyle. I know of no Stillen cooler line failures.....It's obvious that these are the most important parts. Cores are cores, you rarely, if ever, hear of a failure there....

Oh, you'd be surprised about cores, but then again, I'm speaking from experience in the aerospace industry.

cossie1600 · 04-06-2010, 08:24 PM

The good news is that the oil psi light work!

1slow370 · 04-06-2010, 09:22 PM

Man i just don't even want to look at the thing right now, 3 weeks in the air from waiting for a stub shaft, managed to make the viscous axle work with some lathe time a carbide drill and some roll pins (a stroke of genius on my part if i do say so) take it out and 5 hours later the damn cooler blows the hell up. now i'm going to have to tear the front end back apart not to mention cleaning the crap out of the engine bay, but like i said don't go blaming gtm just yet we'll save that until after i take it apart and see where she's spraying from. It may be my fault but we'll see on that I'm not going to just shove this off on bad lines just yet. don't want to ruin their reputation further until i know what it is. If it is GTM's fault I'll have to deal with it and bust out the phone and give sam a call but let's just wait and see.

SAM@GTM · 04-06-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Man i just don't even want to look at the thing right now, 3 weeks in the air from waiting for a stub shaft, managed to make the viscous axle work with some lathe time a carbide drill and some roll pins (a stroke of genius on my part if i do say so) take it out and 5 hours later the damn cooler blows the hell up. now i'm going to have to tear the front end back apart not to mention cleaning the crap out of the engine bay, but like i said don't go blaming gtm just yet we'll save that until after i take it apart and see where she's spraying from. It may be my fault but we'll see on that I'm not going to just shove this off on bad lines just yet. don't want to ruin their reputation further until i know what it is. If it is GTM's fault I'll have to deal with it and bust out the phone and give sam a call but let's just wait and see.

First of all sorry about all your trouble, Please let us know what is your finding of what ever could have caused this, We are here to help, and we will do what ever it takes to make things right.

pm sent

Sam

DannyGT · 04-06-2010, 11:51 PM

Thankfully I havent had any issues with mine for just about 7k miles now. Looking forward to what it is you find went wrong!

1slow370 · 04-07-2010, 03:44 AM

I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

1slow370 · 04-07-2010, 04:03 AM

i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

Minicobra1 · 04-07-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

There really is no need to have one if you don't race the car on a course.

My car regularly sees 240-250 on a hot day (normal grandma driving) I start to notice the cars throttle response decreasing right when it hits about 220, it really feels sluggish and like it has lost power compared to when its running 160-180 when first driving off after a few minutes of warm up.
I definitely think this car needs a cooler, at least my car, I could never drive spiritedly during the summer without one. It sucks.

m4a1mustang · 04-07-2010, 06:20 AM

Yikes. That looks exactly like the other GTM cooler failure we've seen.

Mike · 04-07-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

you said you still had two quarts left in the pan, right? If so, your engine should be fine. Oil should be flowing from the pickup tube, through the engine then out to the filter, right?

Modshack · 04-07-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

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I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

I'm sticking with my theory of incorrectly assembled hoses. BTW, the inside will be smooth and seem bigger as the screw in piece of the fitting (Nipple) is tapered and smooth. As it is tightened it presses the Stainless jacketed side out to engage with the barbs in the outer barrel. Done wrong (see step 3) and you have a problem...Since these are re-usable fittings, it is easy to unscrew the Nipple to check for proper hose engagement..

Daishi · 04-07-2010, 11:29 AM

Looks like I'm not buying a cooler from gtm :/

CrownR426 · 04-07-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

These kinds of posts really make me scared to get a oil cooler

Not at all, if you can't do it just take it to a shop and they'll do a great job.

Our z's need these asap. Should be one of the first mods done.

Zsteve · 04-07-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

I've been watching this and have hesitated to respond due to the obvious relationship but I feel it necessary to say that there is no need to be concerned of all production oil cooler kits. We have not experienced any hose failures with our oil cooler kit. We use genuine Goodridge hoses which do cost more but as you can see, the quality is worth it.

Man what a perfect plug huh?

04-06-2010, 07:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	Im waiting for my tranny and oil cooler kit from GTM. I do not have that warm fuzzy feeling after reading this thread. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

04-06-2010, 09:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Man i just don't even want to look at the thing right now, 3 weeks in the air from waiting for a stub shaft, managed to make the viscous axle work with some lathe time a carbide drill and some roll pins (a stroke of genius on my part if i do say so) take it out and 5 hours later the damn cooler blows the hell up. now i'm going to have to tear the front end back apart not to mention cleaning the crap out of the engine bay, but like i said don't go blaming gtm just yet we'll save that until after i take it apart and see where she's spraying from. It may be my fault but we'll see on that I'm not going to just shove this off on bad lines just yet. don't want to ruin their reputation further until i know what it is. If it is GTM's fault I'll have to deal with it and bust out the phone and give sam a call but let's just wait and see. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-06-2010, 11:51 PM	#21 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Thankfully I havent had any issues with mine for just about 7k miles now. Looking forward to what it is you find went wrong! __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

04-07-2010, 03:44 AM	#22 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines. Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all). __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-07-2010, 04:03 AM	#23 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 04-07-2010 at 04:06 AM.

04-06-2010, 08:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	The good news is that the oil psi light work!

04-07-2010, 06:20 AM	#25 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yikes. That looks exactly like the other GTM cooler failure we've seen. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-07-2010, 11:29 AM	#28 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 17	Looks like I'm not buying a cooler from gtm :/

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