another cooler explosion

wilsonp · 08-19-2010, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

the metal from the bearing drops into the pan and gets circulated through the engine by the pump after plugging the filter and causing it to into bypass the metal then plugged up the screens. it took 200 miles for the thrust bearing to eat away into nothing ness

Why did the damage continue to happen after everything else was fixed?

1slow370 · 08-19-2010, 04:12 AM

if you scour a bearing it will not fix itself and just dies at a much faster rate than it normally would hence blown cooler damaged the smoth surface of the bearing, bearing degrades and produce little metal pieces, pieces eat bearing further, rinse and repeat.

Prosport Gauges · 08-19-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph B

Thats what the little light on your dash tells you,low oil pressure.

you are aware by the time this light comes on your motor is basicly toast anyways OR you will always have that little thought in the back of your mind.... "i wonder if this leak caused any damage".

Chris@FsP · 08-19-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges

you are aware by the time this light comes on your motor is basicly toast anyways OR you will always have that little thought in the back of your mind.... "i wonder if this leak caused any damage".

wilsonp · 08-19-2010, 05:49 PM

If you have a catastrophic failure like an oil cooler line coming loose, how much time will it take for a noticeable oil pressure drop on a gauge versus the light?

On my NSX the oil pressure varied quite a bit based on engine RPM and VTEC engaged.

Chris@FsP · 08-19-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

If you have a catastrophic failure like an oil cooler line coming loose, how much time will it take for a noticeable oil pressure drop on a gauge versus the light?

On my NSX the oil pressure varied quite a bit based on engine RPM and VTEC engaged.

On a gauge, it will be instantaneous.

JB1 · 08-19-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges

this would have never happened if you had an oil pressure gauge

I assume you have a solution for that?? Do you offer an easy to install oil pressure gauge kit for our cars? If so I'm interested.

ARFCOM · 08-19-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

2.3mm of end play in the crank it will be getting replaced next week with a new shortblock if the heads aren't damaged

So, did you get the new shortblock installed?

Did tear apart the bad shortblock and take a look at the bearings?

Did you reinstall the possibly contaminated (with metal shavings) GTM oil cooler on the new engine?

1slow370 · 08-20-2010, 03:41 AM

the feed line on the cooler blew off so it never saw a single shaving you pop that line and bam no oil pressure right away so it isn't an issue of guage versus light here one second you have pressure the next it is just getting pumped straight out the side of the motor and will not reach ANY of the engine. Yeah the short block has been done already and (what was left of ) the thrust bearing was lying in the oil pan.

ARFCOM · 08-20-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

the feed line on the cooler blew off so it never saw a single shaving you pop that line and bam no oil pressure right away so it isn't an issue of guage versus light here one second you have pressure the next it is just getting pumped straight out the side of the motor and will not reach ANY of the engine. Yeah the short block has been done already and (what was left of ) the thrust bearing was lying in the oil pan.

So the big question is... who had to fork out the bucks for the replacement short block & installation?

Prosport Gauges · 08-20-2010, 09:56 AM

I do have a solution. We make a oil adapter plate that fits right in between your block and oil filter. This provides up to 4 ports so you can mount a temp sensor and oil pressure sensor.

you will need a M20x1.5 plate. here is a link

Oil filter adaptor plate-Sandwich adaptor Plate -Prosport Gauges

and our premium series gauges have a built in peak/warning so you dont have to constantly look at oil pressure. It will warn you and beep when you fall to low.

cossie1600 · 08-20-2010, 11:17 AM

i am not sure if that is helpful since most oil cooler install are through the oil filter hole

JB1 · 08-20-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

i am not sure if that is helpful since most oil cooler install are through the oil filter hole

I agree, for an oil cooler install you already need an adapter plate. I don't think you can put one adapter plate on top of another...

It would be nice if Prosport can offer a thermostatic adapter plate with connections for oil lines for the cooler and an oil pressure sensor port! Ryan, I'll PM you my address so you can send me a check for this great idea...

Prosport Gauges · 08-20-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JB1

I agree, for an oil cooler install you already need an adapter plate. I don't think you can put one adapter plate on top of another...

It would be nice if Prosport can offer a thermostatic adapter plate with connections for oil lines for the cooler and an oil pressure sensor port! Ryan, I'll PM you my address so you can send me a check for this great idea...

BUT WE DO!

we offer our oil cooler kits with built in thermo stats and two port sensor holes.

Follow this link now

Oil Cooler - Prosport Aluminum Oil cooler with built in thermostat

On a side note. i dont see it affecting anything if you were to put out adapter plate on with another oil cooler. The plate itself is only 2 inches thick and oil flows right through it.... Idk we havent tested this yet.

JB1 · 08-20-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@prosportGauges

BUT WE DO!

we offer our oil cooler kits with built in thermo stats and two port sensor holes.

Follow this link now

Oil Cooler - Prosport Aluminum Oil cooler with built in thermostat

On a side note. i dont see it affecting anything if you were to put out adapter plate on with another oil cooler. The plate itself is only 2 inches thick and oil flows right through it.... Idk we havent tested this yet.

And I thought I had an original idea

Nice, I'll contact you about outside of this thread.

08-19-2010, 04:12 AM	#107 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	if you scour a bearing it will not fix itself and just dies at a much faster rate than it normally would hence blown cooler damaged the smoth surface of the bearing, bearing degrades and produce little metal pieces, pieces eat bearing further, rinse and repeat. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	If you have a catastrophic failure like an oil cooler line coming loose, how much time will it take for a noticeable oil pressure drop on a gauge versus the light? On my NSX the oil pressure varied quite a bit based on engine RPM and VTEC engaged. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	the feed line on the cooler blew off so it never saw a single shaving you pop that line and bam no oil pressure right away so it isn't an issue of guage versus light here one second you have pressure the next it is just getting pumped straight out the side of the motor and will not reach ANY of the engine. Yeah the short block has been done already and (what was left of ) the thrust bearing was lying in the oil pan. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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08-20-2010, 09:56 AM	#116 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	I do have a solution. We make a oil adapter plate that fits right in between your block and oil filter. This provides up to 4 ports so you can mount a temp sensor and oil pressure sensor. you will need a M20x1.5 plate. here is a link Oil filter adaptor plate-Sandwich adaptor Plate -Prosport Gauges and our premium series gauges have a built in peak/warning so you dont have to constantly look at oil pressure. It will warn you and beep when you fall to low.

08-20-2010, 11:17 AM	#117 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	i am not sure if that is helpful since most oil cooler install are through the oil filter hole