Can the 370Z be push started?

tjlazer · 04-05-2010, 10:52 AM

I need to know asap, can a 6MT 370Z be push started if it won't start? Its getting 12V and I think there might be a problem with the ECU/IPDM

AK370Z · 04-05-2010, 10:59 AM

NO! Please DO NOT ATTEMPT this. You will damage your 370Z. It clearly states in the manual not to push start.

Xan · 04-05-2010, 11:02 AM

I would try an ECU reset, maybe it will help and the car might start again.

Regardless of the manual, I would even attempt to drive it if it doesn't start on it's own.
Who knows what you break in the process...

vipor · 04-05-2010, 11:25 AM

AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

AK370Z · 04-05-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

I think the top line is for all models then below is the warning for Automatic models. Wouldn't the steering will be locked? Isn't the fuel injectors on the Z are electronic?

I mean, I want to know this as well but I would be really upset if the OP does big damage to his car.

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Originally Posted by tjlazer

Well im getting it towed...

Good choice.

FastJew · 04-05-2010, 11:51 AM

I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage. You are just turning the flywheel with the clutch instead of the starter. Just make sure the ingnition is in the ON position (tap start twice without clutch depressed).

I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.

Now that being said if you have never done anything like this before DON'T TRY IT ON YOUR Z. There are several things that can go wrong if you are unfamiliar with push starting. If the vehicle is going too fast you can easily over rev the engine and cause damage (not likely pushing by hand). If your engine is not functioning properly the excessive turning over of a cold engine could damage things as well.

For me, If I knew the only problem with my car was a low battery or bad starter I would not hesitate to push start.

AK370Z · 04-05-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FastJew

I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.

Yes, that's the emergency turn off procedure. Good to know.

370Zsteve · 04-10-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FastJew

I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage.

Dumping unburnt fuel into the catalysts. That can damage them. They are more expensive than a tow!

370Zsteve · 04-08-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

AK, that notice only refers to the AT models

Nope it refers to manuals. would not stop me from doing it if I had to, though.

6SPD_FTW · 04-08-2010, 03:11 PM

So...just a neat little test on Nissans thought you guys would find kinda cool.

IPDM test, called the auto-active test:

Turn ignition ON with the driver's door open.
Press the door switch (in the door jamb) 5 times.
Turn ignition OFF.
Turn ignition ON.

Horn will chirp once and the oil pressure light will blink continuously.
Windshield wipers will run for 5 sec.
Park lights illuminate for 5 sec.
Headlights alternate between low and high beam for 5 sec.
A/C clutch kicks on and off 5 times
Coolant fans run at low then high for 5 sec.
Repeat times 3 and then done.

That is the IPDM E/R test.

Just another cool thing about Nissans.

Late,
Trav

6SPD_FTW · 04-08-2010, 09:55 PM

Oh wait....I think I goofed up.

Same instructions, but push the door jamb switch 10 times, rather than 5.

1slow370 · 04-09-2010, 03:04 AM

FYI the edit button is your friend.

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tjlazer · 04-05-2010, 11:31 AM

Well im getting it towed...

Caravanshaka · 04-05-2010, 11:46 AM

if you put the ignition to the on position everything should function normally if you can push start it. If it's under warranty then don't bother and let them pay for a towtruck to bring it into the dealership.

steveg78 · 04-05-2010, 12:17 PM

If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!

04-05-2010, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
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04-05-2010, 11:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
FastJew Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 58 Drives: 2009/370z/TS/6MT Rep Power: 16	I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage. You are just turning the flywheel with the clutch instead of the starter. Just make sure the ingnition is in the ON position (tap start twice without clutch depressed). I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues. Now that being said if you have never done anything like this before DON'T TRY IT ON YOUR Z. There are several things that can go wrong if you are unfamiliar with push starting. If the vehicle is going too fast you can easily over rev the engine and cause damage (not likely pushing by hand). If your engine is not functioning properly the excessive turning over of a cold engine could damage things as well. For me, If I knew the only problem with my car was a low battery or bad starter I would not hesitate to push start. __________________ 09 370Z - FI TDX CBE/Stillen G3/FI HFC's are next 06 Xterra OR - 3" SL - 33" Pro-Comp MT's - Shrockworks Sliders & Rear Bumper/Tire Carrier - Stillen Cross Drilled Rotors/Pads

04-08-2010, 03:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
6SPD_FTW Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 59 Drives: 09 370Z Bl 6MT Rep Power: 16	So...just a neat little test on Nissans thought you guys would find kinda cool. IPDM test, called the auto-active test: Turn ignition ON with the driver's door open. Press the door switch (in the door jamb) 5 times. Turn ignition OFF. Turn ignition ON. Horn will chirp once and the oil pressure light will blink continuously. Windshield wipers will run for 5 sec. Park lights illuminate for 5 sec. Headlights alternate between low and high beam for 5 sec. A/C clutch kicks on and off 5 times Coolant fans run at low then high for 5 sec. Repeat times 3 and then done. That is the IPDM E/R test. Just another cool thing about Nissans. Late, Trav

04-08-2010, 09:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
6SPD_FTW Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 59 Drives: 09 370Z Bl 6MT Rep Power: 16	Oh wait....I think I goofed up. Same instructions, but push the door jamb switch 10 times, rather than 5.

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tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 53 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 20	Well im getting it towed... __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

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Caravanshaka I shake Caravans Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: north Dallas Posts: 9,517 Drives: everyone crazy Rep Power: 43	if you put the ignition to the on position everything should function normally if you can push start it. If it's under warranty then don't bother and let them pay for a towtruck to bring it into the dealership. __________________ ____________________ PROJECT DiaD - Sold but not forgotten! The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that in order to work the penis, the brain must remain whole.

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steveg78 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MD Posts: 569 Drives: 09 370Z PG M6 +Sport Rep Power: 18	If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!

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