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I need to know asap, can a 6MT 370Z be push started if it won't start? Its getting 12V and I think there might be a problem with the ECU/IPDM

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Old 04-05-2010, 11:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I need to know asap, can a 6MT 370Z be push started if it won't start? Its getting 12V and I think there might be a problem with the ECU/IPDM
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NO! Please DO NOT ATTEMPT this. You will damage your 370Z. It clearly states in the manual not to push start.

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I would try an ECU reset, maybe it will help and the car might start again.

Regardless of the manual, I would even attempt to drive it if it doesn't start on it's own.
Who knows what you break in the process...
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AK, that notice only refers to the AT models
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Well im getting it towed...
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AK, that notice only refers to the AT models
I think the top line is for all models then below is the warning for Automatic models. Wouldn't the steering will be locked? Isn't the fuel injectors on the Z are electronic?

I mean, I want to know this as well but I would be really upset if the OP does big damage to his car.


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if you put the ignition to the on position everything should function normally if you can push start it. If it's under warranty then don't bother and let them pay for a towtruck to bring it into the dealership.
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I don't see how push starting a 6MT could cause any damage. You are just turning the flywheel with the clutch instead of the starter. Just make sure the ingnition is in the ON position (tap start twice without clutch depressed).

I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.

Now that being said if you have never done anything like this before DON'T TRY IT ON YOUR Z. There are several things that can go wrong if you are unfamiliar with push starting. If the vehicle is going too fast you can easily over rev the engine and cause damage (not likely pushing by hand). If your engine is not functioning properly the excessive turning over of a cold engine could damage things as well.

For me, If I knew the only problem with my car was a low battery or bad starter I would not hesitate to push start.
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I kinda push started mine the other day just out of curiousity. With all the stuck throttle stories going around I was wondering how you would shut the car off in that situation. Turns out you must hold the start button for almost 3 seconds to get the engine to shutoff while rolling. Then simply tap the button twice back into the ON position put the car in the appropriate gear for your speed and let the clutch out. Voila, push start with no issues.


Yes, that's the emergency turn off procedure. Good to know.
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If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!
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If you turn off while rolling does the steering wheel lock until you push the start button twice to ON? That would be SCARY!
Steering wheel doesn't lock until you open your door.
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but they are all push started. Push the start button they all start, except that one guy on here that cant get his started.
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but they are all push started. Push the start button they all start, except that one guy on here that cant get his started.
When OP said push started, he meant physically pushing the whole car in neutral and the pop into 1st or 2nd gear. 6 speed cars CAN be started like this.
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When OP said push started, he meant physically pushing the whole car in neutral and the pop into 1st or 2nd gear. 6 speed cars CAN be started like this.
yea I kno, Im at work and bored so Im in a wierd sense of humor way right now.
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