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Crazy8 · 04-04-2010, 08:22 AM

My oil temps averaged around 190 while driving in the mountains. Temp was around 65 degrees. It hit 220 once when i was sitting in a parking lot idling.

CBRich · 04-04-2010, 08:27 AM

Hovering slightly above 200 won't hurt anything. And like others have said I just don't want to have to worry about the problems caused by an oil cooler.

370Zsteve · 04-04-2010, 08:34 AM

Anything over 240 is bad. Anything under 240 is normal. This applies to any engine, not just the VQ37.

I doubt anyone will go near 240 unless they are on a racetrack.

You people should read this and quit yet bellyachin'

Motor oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zigen5 · 04-04-2010, 08:44 AM

I totally agree.... If this was a major issue, they would of fixed it for the 2010's.. Until my car engine locks up or falls apart due to high temp, I'm not worried about it...

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I don't understand why people are concerned about oil temps of 200-230F. Everyone wants to have thick oil and a cold engine running at 160F all the time? Until my car is having issues of persistent 260F+ temps, I'm just going to enjoy the piece of mind I have WITHOUT an oil cooler (no blown hoses, no leaks, etc).

370Zsteve · 04-04-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigen5

I totally agree.... If this was a major issue, they would of fixed it for the 2010's.. Until my car engine locks up or falls apart due to high temp, I'm not worried about it...

in fact, if the Z didn't come equipped with an oil temp gauge, it would be a non-issue.

Vegitto-kun · 04-04-2010, 09:23 AM

Yeah people like to make a big deal over nothing.

temps never came higher than the normal temperature here.

even with some high acceleration and high revving

PapoZalsa · 04-04-2010, 10:22 AM

I open a Topic in the Nissan North America in Facebook for those that might have or having a problem/issue/concern with the Oil Temp to post there.

That way the issue/concern will get notice by the upper food chain in Nissan.

IDZRVIT · 04-04-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Anything over 240 is bad. Anything under 240 is normal. This applies to any engine, not just the VQ37.

I doubt anyone will go near 240 unless they are on a racetrack.

You people should read this and quit yet bellyachin'

Motor oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it also said this:

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A key new test for GF-4, which is also required for API SM, is the Sequence IIIG, which involves running a 3.8 L (232 in³), GM 3.8 L V-6 at 125 hp (93 kW), 3,600 rpm, and 150 °C (300 °F) oil temperature for 100 hours. These are much more severe conditions than any API-specified oil was designed for: cars which typically push their oil temperature consistently above 100 °C (212 °F) are most turbocharged engines, along with most engines of European or Japanese origin, particularly small capacity, high power output.
The IIIG test is about 50% more difficult[10] than the previous IIIF test, used in GF-3 and API SL oils. Engine oils bearing the API starburst symbol since 2005 are ILSAC GF-4 compliant.[11]

The journal bearings are removed from the test engine and scrutinized for any wear. If the wear appears excessive, the oil doesn't get SM certification. Seems like there is a helluva lot of SM certified oils on the shelves of auto parts stores so they must be passing the test for GF-4.

There will always be non-believers and skeptics. I'm happy with my SM oil knowing the above.

kevr6 · 04-04-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

The thing is, the engine temps (coolant) are regulated by the Radiator and thermostat and will remain at approx. 180-190 degrees regardless of the ambient temps (within reason). Higher ambients don't necessarily result in higher oil temps.. 220-230 are perfectly normal oil temps BTW.. Don't like it? quit whining and install a cooler for <$300. Nissan isn't gonna do it for you.

EXACTLY!!!!

The last few vehicles I'ved owned all had the same temps...not understanding all this fuss.

JvKintheUSA · 04-04-2010, 12:54 PM

ejrives · 04-04-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

in fact, if the Z didn't come equipped with an oil temp gauge, it would be a non-issue.

Rep for sure on that one.

Pharmacist · 04-04-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I don't understand why people are concerned about oil temps of 200-230F. Everyone wants to have thick oil and a cold engine running at 160F all the time? Until my car is having issues of persistent 260F+ temps, I'm just going to enjoy the piece of mind I have WITHOUT an oil cooler (no blown hoses, no leaks, etc).

do u track your car? how is it without the cooler? i would like to begin tracking this summer but im conflicted between the risk of oil cooler leaks and the possibility of destroying the engine as a result or on the other hand the car overheating and shutting down after 5 min on the track.

kevr6 · 04-04-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

do u track your car? how is it without the cooler? i would like to begin tracking this summer but im conflicted between the risk of oil cooler leaks and the possibility of destroying the engine as a result or on the other hand the car overheating and shutting down after 5 min on the track.

I agree with that! If you want to track this car then, yes, an oil cooler is recommended. But daily usage I would think we are ok! (Of course the failing oil coolers are scary also)

I generally don't see this car as a track car. To me it's more of a touring/ sport coupe for the road. It takes so much to make this car competitive for the track in my opinion. (Just my 2 cents of course) I've gotten to drive quite a few cars on the track so I'm basing it off that history.

6SPD_FTW · 04-06-2010, 08:18 AM

Even though the thermostat is a 180deg t-stat, the VQ (along with nearly any other engine with a 180deg t-stat) runs a normal coolant temp of 195-210.

Oil temps are going to mirror that...it's normal.

The only thing that really pisses me off about the Z is that Nissan installed factory donut oil coolers on the 3.5L VQ35DE, but not on the high performance VQ37VHR. My 2007 Altima 3.5SE 6MT NEVER NEVER saw oil temps in excess of 240deg...no matter how hard I drove it. Even though the car didn't have an oil temp gauge, it did have a factory oil temp sensor and I monitored that frequently with my Autoenginuity OBD-II scanner.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

Late,
Trav

Endgame · 04-06-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6

EXACTLY!!!!

The last few vehicles I'ved owned all had the same temps...not understanding all this fuss.

Care to eloborate on which cars you are referring to? I am really curious...

04-04-2010, 08:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Anything over 240 is bad. Anything under 240 is normal. This applies to any engine, not just the VQ37. I doubt anyone will go near 240 unless they are on a racetrack. You people should read this and quit yet bellyachin' Motor oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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04-04-2010, 08:22 AM	#16 (permalink)
Crazy8 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 255 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 15	My oil temps averaged around 190 while driving in the mountains. Temp was around 65 degrees. It hit 220 once when i was sitting in a parking lot idling.

04-04-2010, 08:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Hovering slightly above 200 won't hurt anything. And like others have said I just don't want to have to worry about the problems caused by an oil cooler.

04-04-2010, 09:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	Yeah people like to make a big deal over nothing. temps never came higher than the normal temperature here. even with some high acceleration and high revving

04-06-2010, 08:18 AM	#29 (permalink)
6SPD_FTW Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 59 Drives: 09 370Z Bl 6MT Rep Power: 16	Even though the thermostat is a 180deg t-stat, the VQ (along with nearly any other engine with a 180deg t-stat) runs a normal coolant temp of 195-210. Oil temps are going to mirror that...it's normal. The only thing that really pisses me off about the Z is that Nissan installed factory donut oil coolers on the 3.5L VQ35DE, but not on the high performance VQ37VHR. My 2007 Altima 3.5SE 6MT NEVER NEVER saw oil temps in excess of 240deg...no matter how hard I drove it. Even though the car didn't have an oil temp gauge, it did have a factory oil temp sensor and I monitored that frequently with my Autoenginuity OBD-II scanner. Just doesn't make sense to me. Late, Trav