I'd pretty much agree with those numbers. factor in temp, humidity, air pressure and there is even more variance. Makes me feel good that my car in stock trim pulled 278.5 on a Dyno Dynamics, proper break-in ftw.

278 on a dyno dynamics stock? Sure about that? Mine (and most others) pulled about 250 on a mustang. The DD should read even lower. 278whp stock is very dynojet.

I don't find that surprising, one of my first runs was with a black e92 m3 stick. It was a total driver's race and and I ended up holding on for a yard on both runs.

Everyone knows the magazine number but in the real word it's beatable.

yay, 370z>m3

lol I'm just saying it can be done and has been done. I think the m3 is great but its no longer the raw fast fun car it used to be. That's what happens when a car succeeds in the market, they try to make it enticing and pleasurable to the entire population rather than us fanatics.

Well, what about valvetrain work....like new cams, camshaft, cam gears? I know back in my Honda days, those mods would produce substantial gains at a reasonable price. BUT of course the bigger the engine, the more expensive.

What do these sort of mods produce on the 350 and at what cost?

Correct! The only thing I don't have is the LTH but I believe those actually LOSE power according to some previous testing.

I want to see it. True the dynapack reads higher because you're not rotating the unsprung weight of the rear wheels however I don't think you'll hit 350 easy. I put down 315 on a dyno dynamics which is yet another "heartbreak" dyno according to some.

The good think about the dynapack is that it gives you an accurate rwhp... as in, the power that is hitting the rear wheels. Not power to the street.

Correct again. ;)

I'm not going to get into an argument here but I've seen dynapacks read as much whp as the car was supposed to have bhp, they are all over the place and usually read too high to give any indication of real power. I'm not sure why you think that's a good thing, I guess if you wanted to know an inflated number of what the car is putting down without wheels and tires on, only drivetrain loss, then that would be good.They are just notorious ego boosters in every car community I've ever been on.

315 on a dyno dynamics is great though, that you can definitely be proud of and is a much better approximation of the power your car is making.

Moving on.

Agreed

You might be able to get close with.
Pistons, ti springs, rods, ti p-pins, CB, HFC's, Header, cold-air, very agressive engine time-ing and tune, with a 9k red line.
You could get there for sure with a stroker kit.
VQ engines react well to boost so there is not reason not to go that route.
But still not as cool as a sc or tt with less hp for around same price as sc.

Not sure on NA will the VQ will do much past 7500, I think those who have gone up to 8000 have not seem much more power after the 7500ish point.

I think a high power NA motor is much more impressive than a forced induction one.

My car made power all the way through to 8150.

How did the motor feel going above 8k? I know in past motors it was a great idea to bump the redline but today it seems from factory they put that redline pretty close to the top already.

That's gotta be with a tune. I don't think the VQ will hit above 7600 without one. I too make power all the way to 8000.

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But it cost much more money to go that route and see insane hp levels.