Traction Controll Completely Off?

mwhit02 · 12-06-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

Are there any lights that stay on?

Augustus · 12-06-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

ABLS doesn't prevent wheelspin if both rear wheels are spinning at the same rate. It prevents inside wheel spin if one rear wheel is spinning excessively faster than the outside rear wheel. In a Sport or a Nismo this is pretty much only going to happen when turning with the outside rear planted but loaded, and with enough suspension travel such that the inside wheel is light.

In auto-x and track driving you should almost never see ABLS intervene, and even if it did you probably wouldn't notice. It won't prevent you spinning out if you are mashing the gas with VDC off. It is an issue for track drifting since you need maximum wheel spin, but in all other track cases it is a non-issue.

As someone with a non-Sport, open-diff Z, I can attest that ABLS definitely does come into play with VCD off. I find that it's pretty easy to provoke ABLS in VCD-off, low-speed, low-traction, tight-corner situations.

Bert_12Z · 12-22-2013, 01:20 AM

That **** never turns off ,i have a 7at and it always messes with my drag radial burnout even with street tires

nismo09 · 12-26-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

It's not a problem on track at all, never has been for me either. ABLS only kicks in when there is a massively wheel speed differential between front and rear or rear to rear, so basically drifting, burnouts etc. I'm not into that stuff myself since I like my very expensive rubber

You're also more likely to get it in an open diff car vs a LSD Sport/Nismo.

Sounds right to me. I just wish I could figure our a way to solve the "Ice Mode" ABLS problem without having to pay someone like UpRev $500 to "maybe" fix it.

Kingbaby · 12-26-2013, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

For you tire shredding burnout kinds just disable it. The controller is under the center console next to the e-brake.

this is what I did...

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny's 370z

mine is unplugged and is staying that way.too much of the ecu's involvement when i dont want it to be.

^^^

big balls

DRKKNGHT_Z34 · 08-22-2014, 04:12 PM

hey guys, not sure if anyone has posted this yet. I know on some toyota and lexus vehicles, you start the vehicle, and press and hold the vdc button for 10 seconds, and everything from vdc and tc are disabled. So the other day I decided to try it out on my 2011 370z base model, and when you press and hold the button for about 15 seconds, it does completely disable the vdc and tc. You will also notice that you will not and cannot turn the vdc control back on once you completely disable it. You will have to shut the car off and restart it for the vdc to function as designed. Hope this helps.

JARblue · 08-22-2014, 04:18 PM

How were you able to tell a difference? You can confirm that this turns off ABLS? If so, this is great news.

wdkwang · 08-22-2014, 09:17 PM

The pros who worked extensively on their race prepped z couldn't turn it off with just the button. This doesn't do anything except confirm that you don't want it back on for the duration of the time you're driving until you restart it. If you want it fully off, disconnect the Bosch modulator. I've had it disc for the last 2 years. Wouldn't have it any other way.

JARblue · 08-23-2014, 09:26 AM

I was gonna be really surprised if it took 5 model years before someone figured out how to disable everything with just the VDC OFF button. Too good to be true, I guess.

JARblue · 08-23-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DRKKNGHT_Z34

So the other day I decided to try it out on my 2011 370z base model, and when you press and hold the button for about 15 seconds, it does completely disable the vdc and tc. You will also notice that you will not and cannot turn the vdc control back on once you completely disable it. You will have to shut the car off and restart it for the vdc to function as designed. Hope this helps.

You have it backwards. Pushing the VDC OFF button disables the Vehicle Dynamic Control (one of a couple of systems within the traction control system). The light on the instrument panel indicates that VDC is disabled.

I tested this out earlier today. If you hold the button, the light on the IP comes on as soon as you push it in. After what I estimate to be ~10 sec, the light on the IP goes off. I drove the car and confirmed that VDC was still enabled. I was unable to turn VDC OFF until I turned the engine off and restarted the vehicle.

Z34Life · 03-22-2015, 06:50 PM

Gents, Wanted to ask a question here relating to after you disable the control box next to the E - Brake. If you do this , does it record you have changed something via the ECU and thus void's warranty?

Also is there a write up or DIY of someone wiring a switch to the control box?

BGTV8 · 03-22-2015, 08:02 PM

Here ...

DIY Yaw Sensor rocker switch

pokeyl · 08-09-2015, 05:34 PM

After reading the full post on yaw I may have a new solution. Have the switch give a false input for the yaw rate. You would not get the lights on the dash and you would have full control to power over steer. The other change would be to cut the brake input to the ECU. This would enable full burnout!!!

It would be easy to add both functions to the VDC switch. Touch the switch and you have full control and keep ABS. VDC light would still be on!

Elmo370z · 08-13-2015, 04:11 PM

Or just tune with ecu tek

warpeacelove · 08-13-2015, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Or just tune with ecu tek

OR

DIY Traction Control Switch (Really Shut Off Traction Control) - MyG37

08-22-2014, 04:12 PM	#81 (permalink)
DRKKNGHT_Z34 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z 7AT Rep Power: 11	hey guys, not sure if anyone has posted this yet. I know on some toyota and lexus vehicles, you start the vehicle, and press and hold the vdc button for 10 seconds, and everything from vdc and tc are disabled. So the other day I decided to try it out on my 2011 370z base model, and when you press and hold the button for about 15 seconds, it does completely disable the vdc and tc. You will also notice that you will not and cannot turn the vdc control back on once you completely disable it. You will have to shut the car off and restart it for the vdc to function as designed. Hope this helps. __________________ 2011 370z 7AT (WEAPON R INTAKE, AAM SHORT TAILS, LED EVERYTHING)

08-22-2014, 04:18 PM	#82 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	How were you able to tell a difference? You can confirm that this turns off ABLS? If so, this is great news. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

08-22-2014, 09:17 PM	#83 (permalink)
wdkwang Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 899 Drives: slidewayz Rep Power: 21	The pros who worked extensively on their race prepped z couldn't turn it off with just the button. This doesn't do anything except confirm that you don't want it back on for the duration of the time you're driving until you restart it. If you want it fully off, disconnect the Bosch modulator. I've had it disc for the last 2 years. Wouldn't have it any other way. __________________ Powerhouse Amuse \| K&N Typhoon Intakes \| MotorDyne ART Pipes \| Borla Catback Exhaust \| B&M Short Shifter \| Intake Ducts \| Ichiba 25mm F/R Spacers \| Carbon Fiber Interior Vinyl Wrap \| Tints \| 10000k HIDs \| Vtak, yo!

08-23-2014, 09:26 AM	#84 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I was gonna be really surprised if it took 5 model years before someone figured out how to disable everything with just the VDC OFF button. Too good to be true, I guess. Presto likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

08-09-2015, 05:34 PM	#88 (permalink)
pokeyl Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFS Posts: 900 Drives: ??? Rep Power: 55	After reading the full post on yaw I may have a new solution. Have the switch give a false input for the yaw rate. You would not get the lights on the dash and you would have full control to power over steer. The other change would be to cut the brake input to the ECU. This would enable full burnout!!! It would be easy to add both functions to the VDC switch. Touch the switch and you have full control and keep ABS. VDC light would still be on! __________________ It's not my fault I'm old, I was born a very long time ago!

12-22-2013, 01:20 AM	#78 (permalink)
Bert_12Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 8 Drives: 2012 370z red 7 spd Rep Power: 12	That **** never turns off ,i have a 7at and it always messes with my drag radial burnout even with street tires

03-22-2015, 06:50 PM	#86 (permalink)
Z34Life Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 39 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 11	Gents, Wanted to ask a question here relating to after you disable the control box next to the E - Brake. If you do this , does it record you have changed something via the ECU and thus void's warranty? Also is there a write up or DIY of someone wiring a switch to the control box?

03-22-2015, 08:02 PM	#87 (permalink)
BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39973	Here ... DIY Yaw Sensor rocker switch

08-13-2015, 04:11 PM	#89 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,709 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Or just tune with ecu tek

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