so a nissan dealership manager said 370z NEEDS ester oil

kannibul · 02-09-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Redline does have esters.

I see it this way. If not using Nissan Ester Oil really was a problem, Nissan would say it was REQUIRED in the manual. It's merely recommended. There is no voiding of your warranty if you don't use it. If you buy into the 'tiny, diamond nano-particles interact with the engine surfaces" description, go for it. As I see it, oil is a substance that lubricates and all of them do it. Synthetic oils are excellent, Redline has esters, and my car is still running like a banshee. Nissan isn't sucking me into the ester scheme and getting me to pay $11/quart every 3k miles. During my first oil change at the dealer (my last oil change there too), they actually put crappy Valvoline in the car. I made them drain it, find Nissan Ester Oil, and refill the car. Once I hit 5000 miles, bye bye NEO and hello Redline.

Redline is ester-based. Nissan's is dino-based w/ ester additives.

CBRich · 02-09-2010, 04:32 PM

Has NIZMOZ ever not caused controversy in a forum. For God sake, he doesn't even have a 370Z.

In other news, their ester is recommended but not required. And Redline is ester based in the first place so it shouldn't be an issue at all. If anything it should be better.

kannibul · 02-09-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Has NIZMOZ ever not caused controversy in a forum. For God sake, he doesn't even have a 370Z.

In other news, their ester is recommended but not required. And Redline is ester based in the first place so it shouldn't be an issue at all. If anything it should be better.

Ester based oils tend to have issues with moisture absorbtion. Sometimes a PAO oil with Ester additives is better.

NIZMOZ · 02-10-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Has NIZMOZ ever not caused controversy in a forum. For God sake, he doesn't even have a 370Z.

In other news, their ester is recommended but not required. And Redline is ester based in the first place so it shouldn't be an issue at all. If anything it should be better.

I think people have a right to post their opinions.

And when do you not stop whining?

CBRich · 02-10-2010, 10:06 AM

LOL. That's why we love you.

RCZ · 02-11-2010, 11:08 AM

It has been proven already by dozens of people in here that the car runs fine without using nissan's $12/qt magical ester based potion. I'm switching to redline on friday. Early oil change since the dealership apparently couldn't figure out how to tighten a damn oil filter.

"How many Nissan mechanics does it take to screw in an oil filter?"

370Zsteve · 02-11-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

If you buy into the 'tiny, diamond nano-particles interact with the engine surfaces" description, go for it.

I take it you don't buy into it

yes all nanotechnology is just BS, if you can't see it how can it exist.

Trips · 02-11-2010, 11:16 AM

Let the Oil bashing begin!!!! Part II

Red Line and what of it!! lol

370Zsteve · 02-11-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by antman22

i went in to get my oil changed this past weekend and they just put in regular 5w30, i didn't get any hassle from the guy. this was my first oil change so i think the following one will be where i start with ester or some sort of synthetic. redline seems to be the one many use on the forums here.

Let us know if you hear an increase in valvetrain noise or not

370Zsteve · 02-11-2010, 11:24 AM

I love it how everyone dismisses nanoparticles as hype but then they all suck on the Redline hype like a swollen titty. Will Redline perform better than Mobil1? Amsoil? Meh.

LOL, my dealer didn't push Ester at me at all, the service mgr said "just use regular 5W-30". I told him I'll be using the Ester and he said, yeah, it's good oil.

spearfish25 · 02-11-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

I love it how everyone dismisses nanoparticles as hype but then they all suck on the Redline hype like a swollen titty. Will Redline perform better than Mobil1? Amsoil? Meh.

LOL, my dealer didn't push Ester at me at all, the service mgr said "just use regular 5W-30". I told him I'll be using the Ester and he said, yeah, it's good oil.

Well, I didn't choose Redline because of any hype. It's synthetic, ester-based, and more readily available than Amsoil. I've been using Mobile 1 in my wife's car and figure I'd use that in the Z as well if I ever had trouble ordering Redline.

As for swollen titties, sure I'll suck'em

370Zsteve · 02-11-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Well, I didn't choose Redline because of any hype. It's synthetic, ester-based, and more readily available than Amsoil. I've been using Mobile 1 in my wife's car and figure I'd use that in the Z as well if I ever had trouble ordering Redline.

Didn't Nissan develop their oil specifically to eliminate VVEL noise?

Mobil1 ftw! I use it in everything from my lawnmower to my other vehicles, including my motorcycles. If I add up total mileage on my other 3 vehicles, I come up with approx 400,000 miles with no internal engine issues (knock wood).

edit: and that is the standard Mobil1 I buy at Costco.

av370 · 02-14-2010, 10:22 PM

I bought the mantaince program when I got my Z and they didnt realize the "motor oil"fiasico, the service writer said I made out like a bandit.

Iscandar · 02-15-2010, 12:43 AM

I always used Mobil 1 in my 350Z. When I took it to the Nissan dealer he told me synthetic would hurt my engine. I needed to use regular oil. That was strange because I thought synthetic was the best for modern performance engines. It is standard for many high end sports cars for a reason.

VCuomo · 02-17-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iscandar

I always used Mobil 1 in my 350Z. When I took it to the Nissan dealer he told me synthetic would hurt my engine. I needed to use regular oil. That was strange because I thought synthetic was the best for modern performance engines. It is standard for many high end sports cars for a reason.

Synthetic will hurt your engine? Really?

You need to get your car serviced somewhere else...

02-11-2010, 11:08 AM	#21 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	It has been proven already by dozens of people in here that the car runs fine without using nissan's $12/qt magical ester based potion. I'm switching to redline on friday. Early oil change since the dealership apparently couldn't figure out how to tighten a damn oil filter. "How many Nissan mechanics does it take to screw in an oil filter?" Last edited by AK370Z; 02-11-2010 at 06:36 PM. Reason: edited by AK

02-11-2010, 11:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,730 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Let the Oil bashing begin!!!! Part II Red Line and what of it!! lol __________________

02-11-2010, 11:24 AM	#25 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	I love it how everyone dismisses nanoparticles as hype but then they all suck on the Redline hype like a swollen titty. Will Redline perform better than Mobil1? Amsoil? Meh. LOL, my dealer didn't push Ester at me at all, the service mgr said "just use regular 5W-30". I told him I'll be using the Ester and he said, yeah, it's good oil. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Has NIZMOZ ever not caused controversy in a forum. For God sake, he doesn't even have a 370Z. In other news, their ester is recommended but not required. And Redline is ester based in the first place so it shouldn't be an issue at all. If anything it should be better.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	LOL. That's why we love you.

02-14-2010, 10:22 PM	#28 (permalink)
av370 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: antelope valley CA Posts: 70 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 264	I bought the mantaince program when I got my Z and they didnt realize the "motor oil"fiasico, the service writer said I made out like a bandit.

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Iscandar Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 30 Drives: 2009 370Z Touring Rep Power: 15	I always used Mobil 1 in my 350Z. When I took it to the Nissan dealer he told me synthetic would hurt my engine. I needed to use regular oil. That was strange because I thought synthetic was the best for modern performance engines. It is standard for many high end sports cars for a reason.