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NISSNISS370Z 02-08-2010 02:14 PM

Klunk !!!!!!!!!!!
 
So heres the deal, i bought my 370Z preowned with 6100 miles on it. Pretty much from day one when im going through say...a parking lot with speed bumps and people crossing and im at low RPM still in 1st. gear and when i push the clutch in...theres a klunk...the dealership says its normal due to the 2 piece clutch or something i don't know...its hard for me to phathom that such a nice car makes such a annoying sound.. So my question is...is it normal?

vipor 02-08-2010 02:16 PM

1st and 2nd are hard when it's cold. pump the clutch 2 or 3 times and it's much easier.

NYBladeZ 02-08-2010 02:39 PM

two piece clutch? Someone verify....

semtex 02-08-2010 03:01 PM

Wrong section of the forum, dude. You'd probably get more feedback if this were in the General Discussion section. This section is for feedback on the site itself.

vipor 02-08-2010 03:29 PM

^ I don't look at that stuff lol.

"Klunk" also tells us nothing. Maybe "Hard 'Klunk' when shifting into 1st and 2nd" or something for the thread title.

radio5boro 02-08-2010 03:53 PM

you have to really learn the z's clutch, first and second are really sensitive, so be really smooth with it so you don't get that "klunk" you're talking about.

CBRich 02-08-2010 04:04 PM

In the first two gears if you mash the clutch in fast it will make a sort of klunk sound.

topcarbon 02-08-2010 04:26 PM

my BMW did a klunk when it was cold. I had it fixed because it was NOT normal.

roplusbee 02-08-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 393112)
1st and 2nd are hard when it's cold. pump the clutch 2 or 3 times and it's much easier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 393198)
^ I don't look at that stuff lol.

"Klunk" also tells us nothing. Maybe "Hard 'Klunk' when shifting into 1st and 2nd" or something for the thread title.

So you are telling me that this is something that I will have to look forward to with the NISMO when I pick it up, huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by radio5boro (Post 393234)
you have to really learn the z's clutch, first and second are really sensitive, so be really smooth with it so you don't get that "klunk" you're talking about.

What is the learning curve like? I mean, is it something that comes with time or just a quick adjustment?

NYBladeZ 02-08-2010 05:34 PM

I hear the occasional clunk but never when I'm smooth with the clutch. I always drove mustangs, and in those cars you put your clutch foot DOWN. With the Z you feather it, it doesn't need to go far to engage, so if you are hearing a klunk and it doesn't seem like there is any other problem...it's probably your driving.

AK370Z 02-08-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NISSNISS370Z (Post 393109)
So heres the deal, i bought my 370Z preowned with 6100 miles on it. Pretty much from day one when im going through say...a parking lot with speed bumps and people crossing and im at low RPM still in 1st. gear and when i push the clutch in...theres a klunk...the dealership says its normal due to the 2 piece clutch or something i don't know...its hard for me to phathom that such a nice car makes such a annoying sound.. So my question is...is it normal?

It's annoying I know but it's normal. We all hear this clunk everyday. 350Z had this clunk as well.

NISSNISS370Z 02-09-2010 08:55 AM

ok cool and next time i'll put my thread in the proper area...what a relief that this is normal.

blackflag 02-09-2010 03:36 PM

I don't think the klunk is normal, it sounds like something needs to be adjusted. Mine shifts great.

elmz 02-09-2010 03:41 PM

The tranny is noisy and makes clunky sounds. Its more apparent when your in a parking structures or next to a wall or something. The noise is a little annoying considering the type of car it is, but it is a very good solid performing tranny, and that's what counts.

j.arnaldo 02-10-2010 12:38 PM

On the other hand, ATs are flawless, for the benefit of those who prefer auto trannies.

TX_370 02-10-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 393585)
It's annoying I know but it's normal. We all hear this clunk everyday. 350Z had this clunk as well.

:iagree:

Slynky 02-10-2010 01:42 PM

Must be where the word, "clunker" came from...


:hides:

vipor 02-10-2010 02:06 PM

:koolaidwall:

NYBladeZ 02-10-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 396278)
On the other hand, ATs are flawless, for the benefit of those who prefer auto trannies.

Man who drives the AT may be a bit faster, but the man driving the MT is having way more fun :tup:

JvKintheUSA 02-10-2010 03:22 PM

I had this clunk fixed at the dealer. They replaced the rear drive shafts and the clunk was gone. That was 4k miles ago. Now it is doing it again. Happens only when I backup or accelerate from a stop - clearly audible when you are parked in a garage. Sounds like there is play in the driveline. I'm afraid it will get worse over time. When I went to a Z meet in VA in August, several other 370Zs made the same noise, but no one there thought it was a big deal. I found this somewhere online:

Clunk
Clunk is a metallic noise heard when an automatic transmission is engaged in Reverse or Drive, or when throttle is applied or released. It is caused by backlash somewhere in the driveline, but not necessarily in the axle.

ChrisSlicks 02-10-2010 04:08 PM

There is a clutch clunk and then there is the rear-end clunk that you are talking about. The rear-end clunk could be slop in the pinion gear, or axle side shafts. My old Datsun had major slop clunk from the diff, eventually I completely destroyed the rear-end trying to launch it.

JvKintheUSA 02-10-2010 04:25 PM

Yeah it is in the rear-end. I am so surprised that no one else is complaining about that or think that it is normal. It is not. I can see the differential go out of business right outside the warranty period.

khtso 02-10-2010 05:03 PM

I have the same problem. It is actually quite a loud clunk. It is most noticeable when disengaging the clutch in first gear on a hill when the car is cold. (I have to go up a slope when exiting my parking garage). I've read that someone here took it in and the dealer rotated the drive shaft 180 degrees and coated it with grease, which fixed the problem temporarily. I haven't done this.

Slynky 02-10-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA (Post 396546)
I had this clunk fixed at the dealer. They replaced the rear drive shafts and the clunk was gone. That was 4k miles ago. Now it is doing it again. Happens only when I backup or accelerate from a stop - clearly audible when you are parked in a garage. Sounds like there is play in the driveline. I'm afraid it will get worse over time. When I went to a Z meet in VA in August, several other 370Zs made the same noise, but no one there thought it was a big deal. I found this somewhere online:

Clunk
Clunk is a metallic noise heard when an automatic transmission is engaged in Reverse or Drive, or when throttle is applied or released. It is caused by backlash somewhere in the driveline, but not necessarily in the axle.

Remembering the old days when I did a LOT more on cars than I do now, I'd say this sort of thing could be universal joint play. Those were things that had to be replaced sometimes in cars. I'd say the more powerful the engine and the more it is driven in a, hmmmm, spirited mode ( ;) ), the more wear and tear it makes on those joints but I wouldn't expect it to show up till 50,000 or 100,000 miles. Dunno...

Slynky 02-10-2010 05:40 PM

Hope you guys aren't getting drive shaft (singular) confused with axles...

ChrisSlicks 02-10-2010 06:45 PM

The axle half-shafts have universal joints as well. The drive-shaft universal joint is a pretty sturdy piece so I wouldn't expect any failure there for a long long time.

Spec Jay 02-16-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 396873)
The axle half-shafts have universal joints as well. The drive-shaft universal joint is a pretty sturdy piece so I wouldn't expect any failure there for a long long time.

half shafts have CV joints.

serturbo 02-17-2010 12:58 AM

I'm guessing some people's clunks could be due to driving style and timing. The Z is throttle by wire, so there is a lag between pedal action and the throttle plate reacting. If you drive the Z like a car without throttle by wire, the tranny will still be under load when you depress the clutch. I found this to lead to my clunking. I just changed my foot timing a little and no clunks.

NISSNISS370Z 02-17-2010 02:16 PM

when i went to the dealership to bring this problem to there attention they said it was "normal".....also he said that there wasn't a recall but there was a bullitin sent out saying that the bolts in the rear-end had to be re-torqued to a higher pound. this wasnt the case for my car.

B1nks 02-17-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA (Post 396722)
Yeah it is in the rear-end. I am so surprised that no one else is complaining about that or think that it is normal. It is not. I can see the differential go out of business right outside the warranty period.


Does this mean an aftermarket differential will help alleviate the problem ?


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