Nissan 370Z Forum  

Low Oil Pressure

I just changed my oil so I figured I check the pressure just in case. It starts at 20psi and works its way to 12, and that's before it even

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree12Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2021, 04:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Low Oil Pressure

I just changed my oil so I figured I check the pressure just in case. It starts at 20psi and works its way to 12, and that's before it even warms up.
I guess that explains the revs dropping a bit while idling at lights occasionally.

Besides going straight to oil gallery gaskets, what else could it be? No leaks found and oil was at the high mark.
128k miles btw
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2021, 07:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 68
Posts: 35,180
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684437
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Talking

12 psi is LOW. Here's a thread on oil pressures.

Observed Oil Pressure with a gauge
JARblue likes this.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2021, 08:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yeah I already knew it's super low just wanted to know what to check first.

I made a tee fitting quick disconnect so I could add a gauge inside the car later on. Hooked up the gauge and it was 12 psi at idle while still warming up.

Last edited by Ben370; 10-17-2021 at 08:05 PM.
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 03:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Farmington, Utah
Posts: 582
Drives: 14 SR 370z 6MT
Rep Power: 10139
Dreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Anybody know what the factory workshop manual states what oil pressure should be per their test rpm, oil weight and temperature? Just asking.
__________________
Ford Diesel and Heavy Line Technician at your service.
Dreadnaught is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 08:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
Anybody know what the factory workshop manual states what oil pressure should be per their test rpm, oil weight and temperature? Just asking.
On page LU-13
At 176F: 14psi+ idle, 43psi+ 2k rpm
Obviously 5W-30 is Nissan's recommended weight, which I use.

And it says pressure is higher when cold, so mine is really bad since it was 12psi at 140F.

I just want to know how to troubleshoot this to be certain it's the gallery or not. Compression test maybe?
2011 Nismo#91 likes this.

Last edited by Ben370; 10-18-2021 at 08:47 AM.
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 09:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ga
Posts: 13,798
Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z
Rep Power: 2684392
Spooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You have an 09, it is the galley gaskets. Get it fixed before you cause major damage.
Rusty and redondoaveb like this.
Spooler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 10:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

So Z1 gallery gasket kit, timing kit including tensioners, timing seal kit, water pump, and thermostat? Anything else I should change while I'm in there? Serpentine belt, tensioner and AC compressor are already recently replaced.


Last edited by Ben370; 10-18-2021 at 10:49 AM.
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 11:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ga
Posts: 13,798
Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z
Rep Power: 2684392
Spooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yes, there is a bolt upgrade for the galley gaskets. I don't remember who makes it.
JARblue likes this.
Spooler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 11:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Z1 makes it and it's in my cart. Thanks
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 12:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 43
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684440
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spooler View Post
yes, there is a bolt upgrade for the galley gaskets. I don't remember who makes it.
EPS kit has the best bolts.
Rusty and Tractionless like this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 01:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Farmington, Utah
Posts: 582
Drives: 14 SR 370z 6MT
Rep Power: 10139
Dreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond reputeDreadnaught has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben370 View Post
On page LU-13
At 176F: 14psi+ idle, 43psi+ 2k rpm
Obviously 5W-30 is Nissan's recommended weight, which I use.

And it says pressure is higher when cold, so mine is really bad since it was 12psi at 140F.

I just want to know how to troubleshoot this to be certain it's the gallery or not. Compression test maybe?
Since you verified low oil pressure per the workshop manual you should start by either draining the engine oil to see if either oil galley gasket material comes out and bearing material. Bearing material would be a great sign of damage to the crankshaft and cylinder walls due to lack or lubrication.

If you don't see gasket material or sparklys, take the lower oil pan off too see if gasket material is at the entry to the oil pickup tube. The pickup tube has a screen so large debris will not get sucked up. These would be the easiest ways to check for bearing material.

Now, if you still don't see galley gasket material, you will have to take the front cover off to see what you find.
JARblue and Rusty like this.
__________________
Ford Diesel and Heavy Line Technician at your service.
Dreadnaught is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 01:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
Since you verified low oil pressure per the workshop manual you should start by either draining the engine oil to see if either oil galley gasket material comes out and bearing material. Bearing material would be a great sign of damage to the crankshaft and cylinder walls due to lack or lubrication.

If you don't see gasket material or sparklys, take the lower oil pan off too see if gasket material is at the entry to the oil pickup tube. The pickup tube has a screen so large debris will not get sucked up. These would be the easiest ways to check for bearing material.

Now, if you still don't see galley gasket material, you will have to take the front cover off to see what you find.
When I drained my oil, it was fine. Normal contaminant free dark brown used oil. I have a magnetic plug and nothing on there or in the filter. I'm just going to assume loose gallery screws and worn cheap gasket.
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 01:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 43
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684440
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben370 View Post
When I drained my oil, it was fine. Normal contaminant free dark brown used oil. I have a magnetic plug and nothing on there or in the filter. I'm just going to assume loose gallery screws and worn cheap gasket.
I found bits of gasket at the bottom of my oil pan when I removed it. They were big enough there's no way they would have drained out during a normal oil change. You're probably correct that the screws are loose and/or the gasket has deteriorated enough to cause your issue.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 02:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 68
Posts: 35,180
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684437
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Talking

The gasket may have ripped and pushed out some. Not enough to end up in the pan. Someone had posted a picture of this a while back.

When installing the new gaskets and screws. When finished tightening up all the screws. Take a center punch and put a dimple on the edge of the screw in 2 places. This will keep the screw from backing out.
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2021, 02:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 71
Drives: [SOLD] 09 Tour/Sport
Rep Power: 3364
Ben370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond reputeBen370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
The gasket may have ripped and pushed out some. Not enough to end up in the pan. Someone had posted a picture of this a while back.

When installing the new gaskets and screws. When finished tightening up all the screws. Take a center punch and put a dimple on the edge of the screw in 2 places. This will keep the screw from backing out.
I'll make sure to pass that along to the mechanic doing the job. This is too big of a job for me so I'll gladly pay the labor.
Ben370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY: Oil Pressure Gauge spearfish25 DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 141 11-12-2024 06:07 PM
Low oil pressure! jmroy6 Forced Induction 47 11-16-2021 10:01 AM
Oil pressure thavent Engine & Drivetrain 18 06-02-2020 07:36 PM
Zero oil pressure bimbimbop Forced Induction 9 11-01-2017 12:36 AM
Tire Pressure which one... Nismoracer Wheels & Tires 15 04-12-2011 08:04 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2