Csc?

Rusty · 02-02-2021, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lvcky69

exactly. buyers will find out prior purchasing the car. for example, if I find out the car had its tranny replaced, i would walk away. Biden is gonna send a $1400 check for everyone so you could use that towards that lol

What happened to the $2000 he promised on 1/4/21?

JARblue · 02-02-2021, 11:09 PM

I got $115

vtec to vvel · 02-03-2021, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Worst case, CSC failure spits clutch fluid all over the clutch plate requires new clutch and flywheel in addition to a new CSC. Transmission replacement would not be warranted for CSC failure; it was likely something much more serious that necessitated the replacement. I sure as hell would have wanted to know what the issue was before even purchasing the vehicle.

I actually read it on the carfax after purchasing. I had an ‘09 7AT at the time and wanted a manual again so bad that I guess I rushed into it. No issues and drove like a champ.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

It's sad that Nissan doesn't care that this problem plagues it's customers. But there is info all over this forum and a little research would have prepared you for this eventuality. There are people that bought a brand new Z and had the CSC fail driving off the dealer lot, so consider yourself lucky that yours lasted this long.

I think you should install a ZSpeed replacement so you don't have to worry about it ever again. You're going to lose a lot more than the cost of CSC replacement if you try to trade in the car with a leaking transmission bell housing

Even when I had the ‘07 350Z, I read about the same issue about csc but never had an issue. Bought her with 16k miles and traded in at 80k and no csc issues. I figured I’d get lucky here too lol.

I wouldn’t even know where to take my car to for that kind of work. Def don’t want to take it to the dealership.

I’ve always wanted a gtr. I started a new job that is enabling me to do so and may just leave the Z parked until trade in time.

Quicksilvers · 02-03-2021, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I’m just so disheartened about this that I am leaning towards saving up and trading it in for something else. Too scared to drive the Z now and don’t want to spend $$ fixing it.

You are very fortunate you found that your Z had the CSC issue early and you were able to find out information regarding the CSC issue. I had to replace the CSC a total of four times before even finding out about the Z Speed Performance CMAK. If you trade your Z in the current state it is in any competent technician with half a brain will find this issue. They will deduct your trade in value accordingly and you will end up taking a unfortunate loss. Your best option is to park your Z until you can fix it. If you decide to trade in your Z and purchase a different vehicle you will find out that the next vehicle you purchase has it’s own set of issues too. Nissan could honestly care less about the CSC issue that plagues our 370’s and your bet option is fixing the issue and deciding if you want to purchase a different vehicle or keep your Z? We will see if Biden actually lives up to what he says and gives each American citizen $1400 that’s questionable??

Lvcky69 · 02-03-2021, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What happened to the $2000 he promised on 1/4/21?

He is counting the $600 we received from Dec of last year plus the $1.4k he is going to send makes it $2k lol

Rusty · 02-03-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lvcky69

He is counting the $600 we received from Dec of last year plus the $1.4k he is going to send makes it $2k lol

There is a video of him promising 2 grand on 1/4/21. Not the $1400. The democrap congress is the one promising $1400 with the $600 already. Which we will not get.

vtec to vvel · 02-08-2021, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

If you trade your Z in the current state it is in any competent technician with half a brain will find this issue. They will deduct your trade in value accordingly and you will end up taking a unfortunate loss. Your best option is to park your Z until you can fix it.

I've traded in a few cars within the past 5 years and at different dealerships. My last trade in was my '09 Z to the '13 Z, and the "inspection" consisted of them going my car, popping the hood, and starting it. They didn't drive it or anything and gave me a rough number from visual inspection. This has also been the base with the other cars being traded in. I will drive my Z here and there just to get the oil going, but won't do anything else. I will tell them to look at the CSC after signing papers.

vtec to vvel · 02-08-2021, 12:41 AM

Had some time today to drive the Z after parking her for a week. I did open the clutch fluid resevoir for the first time today after purchasing about 3 years ago. I've always inspected the fluid level with a flashlight, and didn't realize the gunk at the bottom with the fluid being a light golden color still. Didn't want to empty the fluid and bleed, so I took a few paper towels and managed to get alot of the gunk out from the resevoir, though I'm sure there is probably more within the system.

Topped off fluid with OEM Nissan DOT 4 and drove her purposely hard. No different feel in clutch pressure and no difference in shifting. The clutch fluid did go down slightly from the max line that I topped it off to.

So does this mean the CSC is the issue?

Spooler · 02-08-2021, 09:04 AM

You are good to go. Keep driving. Just do a fluid exchange every other oil change. It will last a while.

bcrider · 02-08-2021, 07:06 PM

If your fluid level dropped from when you filled it with dot 4, it had to go somewhere. You need to look around/underneath the clutch master cylinder and the bell housing

Ghostvette · 02-11-2021, 01:12 PM

My 2012 had 1600 miles when I bought it. I swapped out the Dot 3 for Dot 4 in the clutch master cylinder and drove it daily for 71K miles before a teenager hit me. Never had an issue with the CSC.

vtec to vvel · 02-13-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

You are good to go. Keep driving. Just do a fluid exchange every other oil change. It will last a while.

So....it’s possible that it’s not the CSC?

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Originally Posted by bcrider

If your fluid level dropped from when you filled it with dot 4, it had to go somewhere. You need to look around/underneath the clutch master cylinder and the bell housing

Not anywhere outside or inside the car. No drips and no wet spots under the car, nor anything inside.

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

My 2012 had 1600 miles when I bought it. I swapped out the Dot 3 for Dot 4 in the clutch master cylinder and drove it daily for 71K miles before a teenager hit me. Never had an issue with the CSC.

So if filling with dot4, would this mean it could just be a matter or swapping fluids and not any issues with the CSC? I don’t think the clutch fluid has ever been changed out.

Ghostvette · 02-16-2021, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

So....it’s possible that it’s not the CSC?

Not anywhere outside or inside the car. No drips and no wet spots under the car, nor anything inside.

So if filling with dot4, would this mean it could just be a matter or swapping fluids and not any issues with the CSC? I don’t think the clutch fluid has ever been changed out.

It's possible you had some Dot 3 boil off, which might explain the loss of fluid and no wet spots. Dot 4 doesn't boil as easily. I changed mine when I looked at the location of the clutch master and realized that there was quite a bit of heat where the line runs. I used a turkey baster to suck out the fluid, cleaned out any residue and refilled with Dot 4 every other oil change, just like Spooler suggested. No issues.

SouthArk370Z · 02-16-2021, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

So....it’s possible that it’s not the CSC? ...

It's possible. But given the history of CSCs in 370Zs, my money is on a bad CSC.

Spooler · 02-16-2021, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

It's possible. But given the history of CSCs in 370Zs, my money is on a bad CSC.

If the fluid level is extremely low in the reservoir for a good while you can also kill the MSC at the same time. It happens.

02-02-2021, 11:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I got $115 __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

02-08-2021, 12:41 AM	#23 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,915 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	Had some time today to drive the Z after parking her for a week. I did open the clutch fluid resevoir for the first time today after purchasing about 3 years ago. I've always inspected the fluid level with a flashlight, and didn't realize the gunk at the bottom with the fluid being a light golden color still. Didn't want to empty the fluid and bleed, so I took a few paper towels and managed to get alot of the gunk out from the resevoir, though I'm sure there is probably more within the system. Topped off fluid with OEM Nissan DOT 4 and drove her purposely hard. No different feel in clutch pressure and no difference in shifting. The clutch fluid did go down slightly from the max line that I topped it off to. So does this mean the CSC is the issue? __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

02-08-2021, 07:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
bcrider Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: North Ga Posts: 8 Drives: Tacoma Rep Power: 9	If your fluid level dropped from when you filled it with dot 4, it had to go somewhere. You need to look around/underneath the clutch master cylinder and the bell housing JARblue likes this.

02-11-2021, 01:12 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ghostvette A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Shawnee KS Posts: 5,698 Drives: 15 Magma Red 6MT Rep Power: 2684377	My 2012 had 1600 miles when I bought it. I swapped out the Dot 3 for Dot 4 in the clutch master cylinder and drove it daily for 71K miles before a teenager hit me. Never had an issue with the CSC. __________________ 2015 Magma Red 6MT Sport Tech/2012 Fairlady MB 6MT Base (RIP 08032018)https://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/

02-08-2021, 09:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,800 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	You are good to go. Keep driving. Just do a fluid exchange every other oil change. It will last a while.