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Old 12-28-2020, 05:48 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Further the VQ platform? That's a joke. You and your buddy are the reason it sucks so bad. Keep it a secret. LOL, everything is in my thread you refuse to read. Can you read? You act like we don't work on our own cars and that the DrBacon god has spoken. You and your buddy are saving the VQ. Please melt down some more. This is fun to watch. Go ahead, let's see some more.
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This is a self built engine, and by self built it's not even me, just a friend who I am helping out. Could mistakes have been made? Oh yeah for sure. But this is the only way you will ever learn in life with literally anything, try it, learn what you did wrong, fix your mistake(s), do it again. It's pretty well expected this block will be disassembled again in the future due to whatever various issues that may arise. No one obviously expects perfection from a self build.

And yes, a lot of companies/people like to keep their secrets, which is exactly why we're just having to do this ourselves and see what fails, it's the only way. This engine is expected to be running 30-35psi of boost at full tilt, and we know there's a very good chance it'll run into head lift issues even with ARP L19 head studs, a step decked block and MLS headgaskets. But my point being is, just because you know something might fail doesn't mean you shouldn't try, right? We're all on the same team here, we just want to see VQ's make some power.
Get it back up and running. Looks like you’re on the right path. Far as the De goes even with sleeves you’re reaching the potential of that block before you split it. That’s if you’re pushing the motor at full tilt 100% of the time. Just like you said you won’t learn if you don’t try.

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So this is a discussion I've had with a friend and we aren't really sure about, figured I'd ask here since you're all super knowledgeable people. But we're thinking THEORETICALLY, if you had an oil cooler and an oil fed turbo or supercharger, wouldn't it be smart to SLIGHTLY overfill your oil beyond the max line. The theory is that when the car sits the oil in the lines will drain back in the pan and give a higher than it actually is reading, when you go to start the car the oil is sucked in the lines and turbo/supercharger and now you're effectively low on oil. Does this sound insane or actually plausible?
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I will tell you how to further the VQ platform. It is just like ever other platform. You have to pay a good shop to build your engine knowing that if it tanks you will have to pay again for a new engine after you diagnose what happened and correct it. The problem with the VQ platform is nobody wants to pay, just like your friend and yourself. I am supposed to give you all the knowledge I paid for. Well, that is not happening. What it will do is get the other shops that support the VQ platform to step up their game and spend the money on development. Why do you think the GTR platform has been so successful? People have been stepping up and paying for the development knowing if they blow stuff up, they will have to spend the money to do it all over again. That doesn't happen on the VQ platform. I hear of calls all the time with people fishing on on how to build the engine. It is that or they call, get a price, and never call back.

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What is the purpose of the build? To drag race? I’d be interested in seeing how that mlx Hg with step decking the block holds up at high boost.
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I find it entertaining how someone comes here and is willing to share details, both good and bad for the greater good of this community only to get criticized and told to "just take it to a shop". It's no wonder why the VQ platform development has stalled and stuck in the past when your average honda build now makes more power than a higher end VQ. Pathetic.

None of you deserve ****. Guess it's time to join everyone else and keep the issues and solutions of a high powered vq build a secret. I'll see if a moderator is willing to delete this topic.
VQ development is **** because kids are into the platform and all the big bank accounts went to the GTR. Vinny Ten ran a 8.83 woth a DE block like 8 years ago, mazworx ran 7’s I believe. The R&D for a big power blower build isn’t there. Not many VQ owners are willing to drop 50-75k into these cars when you have the GtR to go fast in a straight line and in corners. There is a guy in south Florida who made 900whp with his De and he built it himself and tuned the car on a haltech stand-alone. I can put you in contact with him, just pm me he might be a huge help with any questions you have.
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VQ development is **** because kids are into the platform and all the big bank accounts went to the GTR. Vinny Ten ran a 8.83 woth a DE block like 8 years ago, mazworx ran 7’s I believe. The R&D for a big power blower build isn’t there. Not many VQ owners are willing to drop 50-75k into these cars when you have the GtR to go fast in a straight line and in corners. There is a guy in south Florida who made 900whp with his De and he built it himself and tuned the car on a haltech stand-alone. I can put you in contact with him, just pm me he might be a huge help with any questions you have.
Tim right? He has been very helpful. Thank you though. This build was actually roughly based on what he had done, just hopefully taken to a bit higher level.

But yeah I think I'll just leave this thread be now, no point. Tired of people, I have better **** to do.
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