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DrBacon 12-24-2020 07:27 PM
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Spooler 12-24-2020 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978599)
I believe it's a dynosty headgasket. Yeah if the block cracks that would indeed be unfortunate but only one way to really know and can't exactly go back now. It is also using dynosty's billet girdle which from my understanding helps reinforce the block a lot. I wonder if the cracked blocks you know about weren't using one?
It was a Mazworx engine that Mark drag raced. He crack the block like I stated. That is why there is a billet VQ35DE block out there. It is between 9 and 10k. So, you guys are not doing anything new. The true answers are out there. You just have to search for them. That is how I know what I do. Everything is in my tread.

ZoomZ 12-25-2020 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978578)
This is a self built engine, and by self built it's not even me, just a friend who I am helping out. Could mistakes have been made? Oh yeah for sure. But this is the only way you will ever learn in life with literally anything, try it, learn what you did wrong, fix your mistake(s), do it again. It's pretty well expected this block will be disassembled again in the future due to whatever various issues that may arise. No one obviously expects perfection from a self build.

And yes, a lot of companies/people like to keep their secrets, which is exactly why we're just having to do this ourselves and see what fails, it's the only way. This engine is expected to be running 30-35psi of boost at full tilt, and we know there's a very good chance it'll run into head lift issues even with ARP L19 head studs, a step decked block and MLS headgaskets. But my point being is, just because you know something might fail doesn't mean you shouldn't try, right? We're all on the same team here, we just want to see VQ's make some power.
"Inventions were created by failures".-Me

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Optimiser 12-25-2020 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978578)
This is a self built engine, and by self built it's not even me, just a friend who I am helping out. Could mistakes have been made? Oh yeah for sure. But this is the only way you will ever learn in life with literally anything, try it, learn what you did wrong, fix your mistake(s), do it again. It's pretty well expected this block will be disassembled again in the future due to whatever various issues that may arise. No one obviously expects perfection from a self build.

And yes, a lot of companies/people like to keep their secrets, which is exactly why we're just having to do this ourselves and see what fails, it's the only way. This engine is expected to be running 30-35psi of boost at full tilt, and we know there's a very good chance it'll run into head lift issues even with ARP L19 head studs, a step decked block and MLS headgaskets. But my point being is, just because you know something might fail doesn't mean you shouldn't try, right? We're all on the same team here, we just want to see VQ's make some power.
If you have the money and time to waste then fine.
Just get it proffesionaly done I would think rather than risking it.

2011 Nismo#91 12-28-2020 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3978752)
If you have the money and time to waste then fine.
Just get it professionally done I would think rather than risking it.
Yeah seriously, "30-35psi" & "we're just having to do this ourselves and see what fails".

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DrBacon 12-28-2020 06:57 AM
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Ghostvette 12-28-2020 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978999)
Building your own car is half the fun. Having a shop build your car seems so...disappointing. Not to mention the easy 20k+ in labor it would cost.

If all you care about is the end result and not the journey then sure, go crazy, but not everyone shares the same mentality. But can you really call yourself a car enthusiast at that point?
True to a point... but most of those suggesting a professional build have been down that road. We've built engines, trans & rear ends ourselves, learned the expensive mistakes and now choose to use a professional to build our cars. Yes, we could get engines & trans out of a salvage yards, old Detroit muscle was easy to find back in the 70s, now, not so much. Today's cars are sometimes harder to find, when they get crunched, there's not as much sheet metal around the engine and more things get broken.

If someone was building an engine today, my advice would be to have a professional do it, unless you are doing a basic rebuild of an engine that has 200k on it. You still have to have the block tanked, line-bored, decked and the heads gone through. The crank has to be matched to the block and balanced. Not everyone has the tools to assemble an engine properly, ring compressors and good torque wrenches aren't cheap, and why buy them for a 'first-time build'?

Bottomline, your friends' choice. My second piece of advice.... curate the YouTube videos... not everyone has their chit in one bag....:ugh2:

Spooler 12-28-2020 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978999)
Building your own car is half the fun. Having a shop build your car seems so...disappointing. Not to mention the easy 20k+ in labor it would cost.

If all you care about is the end result and not the journey then sure, go crazy, but not everyone shares the same mentality. But can you really call yourself a car enthusiast at that point?
Sounds like he might be pulling a Rusty. I hope he is not married or has kids. He may be shown the door. LMAO!!!! Reality is he is short on money to do a proper build. I get it. I have done it myself way too many times. This is the first build I have let someone else do. Why, because I didn't have too. You just showed your true colors with that last statement.

Rusty 12-28-2020 10:55 AM
Hope not. I lost count on the number of motors I built and blown up. :icon14: I really don't want to think about it.

DrBacon 12-28-2020 01:47 PM
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Spooler 12-28-2020 02:18 PM
I knew I was wasting my time. Not anymore.

DrBacon 12-28-2020 02:36 PM
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Spooler 12-28-2020 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3979038)
Cya bud
Not if I can help it. Iggy list you go.

JARblue 12-28-2020 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978999)
Building your own car is half the fun...

If all you care about is the end result and not the journey then sure, go crazy, but not everyone shares the same mentality. But can you really call yourself a car enthusiast at that point?
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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3978578)
This is a self built engine, and by self built it's not even me.
So according to your own posts, you're actually not a car enthusiast?

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 3979031)
But for some of us we have pride in creating something ourselves
:rolleyes: But you already said you didn't build it yourself...

DrBacon 12-28-2020 03:39 PM
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