First Oil Change: Mobile 1 or Castrol Syntec?

LiquidZ · 01-21-2010, 09:57 AM

Spartan 1771 · 01-21-2010, 04:18 PM

I just spoke to the local dealership Service Manager. He said they use Mobil 1 in the Z. He also said they charge around $80 for the change. I'm sure I can do it myself for a lot cheaper, but it's gonna be a pain in the butt with everything you have to take off to get to the oil pan.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

I just spoke to the local dealership Service Manager. He said they use Mobil 1 in the Z. He also said they charge around $80 for the change. I'm sure I can do it myself for a lot cheaper, but it's gonna be a pain in the butt with everything you have to take off to get to the oil pan.

It really isn't that bad. It takes a few minutes to get all of the bolts out if you want to remove the entire tray, but you don't have to.

You can access the oil filter and drain plug by removing the four rearmost bolts. You'll see that the rear quarter of the tray is designed to fold down for access.

You obviously have less space to work with, but if you want to do it quickly you can do it this way. Be advised that the tray will not stay folded down on it's own, so you need some cord to run through the bolt holes and tie it down somewhere.

You could probably just remove the whole thing in the time it takes you to tie it down.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If you don't use redline oil the seams of the piston bases will split after a while of use (usually 50k miles or so). The group 5 esters are needed to help keep the rings seated so that the VVEL actuators run smoothly and the car stays on the proper timing.

No one has commented on this yet so I just want to make it known that I was being sarcastic. I am not a moron.

vipor · 01-21-2010, 04:27 PM

maybe not on THAT subject

lol

feelzpwr91 · 01-21-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

I just spoke to the local dealership Service Manager. He said they use Mobil 1 in the Z. He also said they charge around $80 for the change. I'm sure I can do it myself for a lot cheaper, but it's gonna be a pain in the butt with everything you have to take off to get to the oil pan.

pretty sure its only 15 bolts and 4 clips took me about 2 minutes to get it off

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

maybe not on THAT subject

lol

I have to say, given the amount of noob-drivel that we have to sort through on a near daily basis, I take pride in the fact that I am not a moron!

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by feelzpwr91

pretty sure its only 15 bolts and 4 clips took me about 2 minutes to get it off

With good ramps it's a really quick job. Maybe 30 minutes including prep and cleanup. If Rachel Ray can do it, so can you!

vipor · 01-21-2010, 04:35 PM

rofls.

i did mine by jacking up the passenger side of the car using the factory jack. the floor jack and stands were in storage. it was a tight fit, but doable. took maybe an hour, but i had a hard time getting the stock filter off.

Spartan 1771 · 01-21-2010, 04:48 PM

Um, I hate rachel ray. Her mindless drivel is like nails on a chalk board to my ears.

Anyway.........................

I don't have ramps, but I do have a good floor jack and a set of jack stands, so I think I'll be good. Any recommendations on when I should do my first change? The car just hit 1,700 miles.

vipor · 01-21-2010, 04:50 PM

most are doing theirs by the standard 3k mark. some earlier. up to you really. the car does not come with synthetic oil

Spartan 1771 · 01-21-2010, 04:52 PM

Interesting.

Nissan: "We recommend using synthetic oil in this car". Then they ship it out with regular oil.

A case of: Do as I say, not as I do.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Um, I hate rachel ray. Her mindless drivel is like nails on a chalk board to my ears.

Anyway.........................

I don't have ramps, but I do have a good floor jack and a set of jack stands, so I think I'll be good. Any recommendations on when I should do my first change? The car just hit 1,700 miles.

Check to make sure your floor jack is low enough to get under the front of the car. Mine isn't, so my quick fix was to buy ramps instead of spending $200+ for a real nice low profile jack (which I will do eventually).

As far as the first change... do it whenever. I'd check your oil levels now to see what the burn rate is like and also check the condition of the oil. You may want to change it sooner rather than later.

You'll probably have a bit of oil burn for the first several thousand miles. I think I stabilized at little to no burn per 1,000 miles after my second oil change.

SigPapa226 · 01-21-2010, 05:08 PM

Check out this thread:

Nissan Ester Oils? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

vipor · 01-21-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Interesting.

Nissan: "We recommend using synthetic oil in this car". Then they ship it out with regular oil.

A case of: Do as I say, not as I do.

i went through all that with the financing guy at the dealership. "would you like to buy our service plan?" i ask what it consists of.. "oil changes, tire rotations, etc." i ask if it covers synthetic oil or ester oil. "nope." then i ask if they'll unmount the tires to switch them side to side (didn't know the tires had an outside and inside at the time.) "nope."

kinda funny. they should put a disclaimer on the Z stating not to offer that service.

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Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	I just spoke to the local dealership Service Manager. He said they use Mobil 1 in the Z. He also said they charge around $80 for the change. I'm sure I can do it myself for a lot cheaper, but it's gonna be a pain in the butt with everything you have to take off to get to the oil pan. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

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vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	maybe not on THAT subject lol __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

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vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	rofls. i did mine by jacking up the passenger side of the car using the factory jack. the floor jack and stands were in storage. it was a tight fit, but doable. took maybe an hour, but i had a hard time getting the stock filter off. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

01-21-2010, 04:48 PM	#40 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	Um, I hate rachel ray. Her mindless drivel is like nails on a chalk board to my ears. Anyway......................... I don't have ramps, but I do have a good floor jack and a set of jack stands, so I think I'll be good. Any recommendations on when I should do my first change? The car just hit 1,700 miles. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

01-21-2010, 04:50 PM	#41 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	most are doing theirs by the standard 3k mark. some earlier. up to you really. the car does not* come with synthetic oil* __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

01-21-2010, 04:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	Interesting. Nissan: "We recommend using synthetic oil in this car". Then they ship it out with regular oil. A case of: Do as I say, not as I do. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

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