First Oil Change: Mobile 1 or Castrol Syntec?

AK370Z · 01-19-2010, 11:54 AM

As you can see here, I use REDLINE. Just my personal choice. You can run ANY motor oil in your 370Z.

Though, I suggest using synthetic motor oil. It's suggested by some to switch to synthetic after 3000 miles (I did it at 3600 miles)

NIZMOZ · 01-19-2010, 12:22 PM

Hey man. The main reason yours got noisy is because of M1 itself. Many cars are having noise issues and cars using oil more after people switched to M1 since they changed their formulation. If you switched to Penzoil Plat, or Castrol Edge, your engine will be way quieter guaranteed. I also used M1 a while back and moved away due to this too.

M1 is not as good as it use to be. PP is better than them. Welcome

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

ok, i'm gonna throw my two cents in on this one. first of all, i realize we have similar but different motors. i started changing my oil after the first 3k miles with mobil 1 synthetic 5w30. i usually changed it every 5k afterwards give or take. due to my trip to ZCON this year in the truck i stretched it a little further and ended up changing my oil right at 60k the last time (right after i got back from Tx), again with mobil 1. recently though, my engine has gotten very rough running. on the cold mornings that i've been getting up for work (below 30*) it has made loud (i can only describe it as) "piston slapping" noises. i became very concerned about it so i called the dealership here in anderson, who i've never had dealings with since i just moved down here in december. long story short they said to bring it in and they would drive it to see if they could come to any conclusions based on the sounds it was making. i was due for a oil change tho because i was at 65k miles now. i took it in this past friday evening and they drove it on saturday morning (go figure it'd be warmer that morning that the entire month of dec and jan so far lol). they couldn't hear anything abnormal. i let them go ahead and just use their regular mobil oil (non-synthetic) and let them do the oil change. i immediately noticed a VAST improvement in NVH and start up noises, even when cold.

long story short: just get the oil changed at the dealership, they will have records of it in case anything happens. the oil they use is spec'd out to work with your engine. they didn't charge me much at all.

feelzpwr91 · 01-19-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z

As you can see here, I use REDLINE. Just my personal choice. You can run ANY motor oil in your 370Z.

Though, I suggest using synthetic motor oil. It's suggested by some to switch to synthetic after 3000 miles (I did it at 3600 miles)

lol, see AK, almost everyone on the forum has posted somthing about oil and ester bases.

Everyone:Redline is a recomended because its an esterbase synthetic and overall runs well, Nissan motors are made to compliment all oils,, esterbase is only recomended

Spartan 1771 · 01-19-2010, 12:30 PM

Regardless of the ester comments, I think this thread has actually helped me to make a decision: I'm going to have the dealership do it. Easier, cleaner, no oil to dispose of and no warranty worries.

PS: What the hell is ester?

theDreamer · 01-19-2010, 12:34 PM

If you go to the dealership, make sure to check things before you leave, like everything is screwed on tightly, no leaks, etc.

feelzpwr91 · 01-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Regardless of the ester comments, I think this thread has actually helped me to make a decision: I'm going to have the dealership do it. Easier, cleaner, no oil to dispose of and no warranty worries.

PS: What the hell is ester?

yes have the dealership do it if you prefer it that way, but bring your own oil that states some where that its an ester base Catagory 4 or 5, (Redline/Amsoil/LucasOil) and they will use the provided oil

feelzpwr91 · 01-19-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Regardless of the ester comments, I think this thread has actually helped me to make a decision: I'm going to have the dealership do it. Easier, cleaner, no oil to dispose of and no warranty worries.

PS: What the hell is ester?

Ester oil is synthetic base oil that has been chemically synthesized. Typically ester oils are used in passenger cars. Esters are one of the classes of synthetics Esters are stable molecules, provide good solvency, and provide very good low temperature and high temperature performance in engine oils.

HKYStormFront · 01-19-2010, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Hey man. The main reason yours got noisy is because of M1 itself. Many cars are having noise issues and cars using oil more after people switched to M1 since they changed their formulation. If you switched to Penzoil Plat, or Castrol Edge, your engine will be way quieter guaranteed. I also used M1 a while back and moved away due to this too.

M1 is not as good as it use to be. PP is better than them. Welcome

i actually heard Uprev's rep at ZCON talking about this. b settle also recommended switching to castrol instead. but since i don't work at a dealership anymore, don't have my tools down here in SC and nowhere (except B's house) to change my own oil, i'm just gonna let the dealership change the oil for now. think my total was $27 and some change.

OP, the dealership should have ester oil on hand as some infiniti's recommend it. it may cost a little more for the oil change but it's probably worth it. having worked as a mechanic at a dealership i can give this advice: 1) become well aquainted with one service writer, i was a writer for a while as well and i had customers that came back and waited in line to talk to me since i remembered their history and treated them well. 2) if you can, meet the mechanic who changes the oil and note whether or not he does a good job. if so, call back to the dealership (to the writer you got to know) and tell them to let the mechanic know you are thankful he took care of your car and make a note that you want him to continue to work on the car over it's service life so he becomes the only one to ever turn a wrench on it. if he does not do a good job (leaves oil dripping from the draining or screws loose/missing from the engine cover) call and let the service writer know so they can make a note that you don't want so-and-so working on your car again. i did this quite frequently with my customers. it helps build a trusting relationship between the writer, mechanic and customer.

j.arnaldo · 01-20-2010, 02:46 PM

The one that's on sale when you go buy it! Me? Mobil 1, 5W30 weight, but all will do the job.

Spartan 1771 · 01-20-2010, 09:29 PM

HKYStormFront:

Thanks for the GREAT advice. I'll be sure to follow it.

TARDCORE · 01-21-2010, 12:43 AM

When I bought my Z the sales manager noticed I wasn't happy about paying $500 ontop of invoice so he comes up to me and says he will make a deal to cover my first 2 oil changes for free. I laughed at him and he said that if I do oil change myself it will void the warranty. Don't have the retard stealership do your oil change. A great reason, I purchased the finishing touch package (I know it was REALLY stupid of me) but I dropped the car off, waited about 6 hours, 2 hours longer than I expected, adn when I got there my car had 28 EXTRA miles on it and when I started it the oil temp was 178F! Just be aware that the people who you leave your car with are like 16 year old kids and if they are older, they act like 16 year old kids.

And to add, I used Mobile 1 on my RSX for 2 years straight. I raced about twice a month on a 1/8 mile track ad I never had any engine noise or problems during that time frame. There was a post somehwere with the 5 groups of oils and there purpose which is a great read but for your needs, anything synthetic synthetic should be fine. Oil is the same as experience businesses. Some people have good experiences, some people have bad experiences; no matter which one they experience, everyone they know will get an ear full about it.

Kastley85891 · 01-21-2010, 12:52 AM

Other - ENEOS 0W 50 FS at 1500 miles
Castrol conventional 5W - 30 at 600 miles

Trips · 01-21-2010, 01:34 AM

Dealer oil at 1k, now at 4900 and same oil for the second oil change at 5200

j.arnaldo · 01-21-2010, 09:02 AM

Yep, even Pennzoil's Platinum synth' oil is getting good reviews, lately. So, go more by price, than by renoun and publicity. It DOES seem that the 370 needs the ester compound for extended engine life, whereas 350s do just fine with any synthetic oil. I've stuck with Monil 1 since the early-to-mid 90s on all my vehicles (Maxima, XTerra, Pathfinder and, now, the 350Z) with zero issues. Mobil 1 is the most-often promoted oil (i.e. on sale), so I purchase it by the case(s).

SigPapa226 · 01-21-2010, 09:47 AM

I've run my TT on plain old Pennzoil 10W30 for 18 years and still going strong. If you aren't tracking it, regular oil changes with just about any reputable oil will do fine.

With that said, most of what I have read in recent years is that the synthetics are better & that is what I'll probably use in the new one. You can argue all day (and they have here) about which is best & you will not get a consensus except maybe use a synthetic/ester oil.

View Poll Results: Castrol Syntec, Mobile 1 or Other?
Mobile 1	48	56.47%
Castrol Syntec	8	9.41%
Other	29	34.12%
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01-19-2010, 11:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
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01-19-2010, 12:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	Regardless of the ester comments, I think this thread has actually helped me to make a decision: I'm going to have the dealership do it. Easier, cleaner, no oil to dispose of and no warranty worries. PS: What the hell is ester? __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

01-19-2010, 12:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	If you go to the dealership, make sure to check things before you leave, like everything is screwed on tightly, no leaks, etc. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-20-2010, 09:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	HKYStormFront: Thanks for the GREAT advice. I'll be sure to follow it. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

01-20-2010, 02:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	The one that's on sale when you go buy it! Me? Mobil 1, 5W30 weight, but all will do the job.

01-21-2010, 12:43 AM	#26 (permalink)
TARDCORE Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 410 Drives: 2010 Solid Red 370Z Rep Power: 16	When I bought my Z the sales manager noticed I wasn't happy about paying $500 ontop of invoice so he comes up to me and says he will make a deal to cover my first 2 oil changes for free. I laughed at him and he said that if I do oil change myself it will void the warranty. Don't have the retard stealership do your oil change. A great reason, I purchased the finishing touch package (I know it was REALLY stupid of me) but I dropped the car off, waited about 6 hours, 2 hours longer than I expected, adn when I got there my car had 28 EXTRA miles on it and when I started it the oil temp was 178F! Just be aware that the people who you leave your car with are like 16 year old kids and if they are older, they act like 16 year old kids. And to add, I used Mobile 1 on my RSX for 2 years straight. I raced about twice a month on a 1/8 mile track ad I never had any engine noise or problems during that time frame. There was a post somehwere with the 5 groups of oils and there purpose which is a great read but for your needs, anything synthetic synthetic should be fine. Oil is the same as experience businesses. Some people have good experiences, some people have bad experiences; no matter which one they experience, everyone they know will get an ear full about it. __________________ XBL:EVENTYDE Last edited by TARDCORE; 01-21-2010 at 12:46 AM.

01-21-2010, 12:52 AM	#27 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Other - ENEOS 0W 50 FS at 1500 miles Castrol conventional 5W - 30 at 600 miles __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

01-21-2010, 01:34 AM	#28 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,732 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Dealer oil at 1k, now at 4900 and same oil for the second oil change at 5200 __________________

01-21-2010, 09:02 AM	#29 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	Yep, even Pennzoil's Platinum synth' oil is getting good reviews, lately. So, go more by price, than by renoun and publicity. It DOES seem that the 370 needs the ester compound for extended engine life, whereas 350s do just fine with any synthetic oil. I've stuck with Monil 1 since the early-to-mid 90s on all my vehicles (Maxima, XTerra, Pathfinder and, now, the 350Z) with zero issues. Mobil 1 is the most-often promoted oil (i.e. on sale), so I purchase it by the case(s). Last edited by j.arnaldo; 01-21-2010 at 09:12 AM.

01-21-2010, 09:47 AM	#30 (permalink)
SigPapa226 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 205 Drives: 300 ZXTT, 370 ZR Rep Power: 16	I've run my TT on plain old Pennzoil 10W30 for 18 years and still going strong. If you aren't tracking it, regular oil changes with just about any reputable oil will do fine. With that said, most of what I have read in recent years is that the synthetics are better & that is what I'll probably use in the new one. You can argue all day (and they have here) about which is best & you will not get a consensus except maybe use a synthetic/ester oil. __________________ Black 300ZX TT Stock + Megan CBE; Black Cherry 370Z Roadster, 6MT, Touring, Sport, Nav., 3-way Fog Light (Running, brake & flashing backup), Triple Tone Air Horns.

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